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PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2020 10:20 pm    Post subject: Covid-19 (part 4) Reply with quote

Continued from: Covid-19 (part 3) --pjp

A call for humility:
https://charleseisenstein.org/essays/the-conspiracy-myth/?_page=3
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Fake Sky News Report On Mexico City Crematoriums and Death Counts Exposed #filmyourhospital
COVID19 CATASTROPHE: WE NEED TO TAKE BACK OUR SOVEREIGNTY BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE
WHO Guidelines Encourage Children Younger Than 4 be Taught “Masturbation” and “Gender Identity” during COVID-19 plandemic. WHO is not busy at all.
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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2020 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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A call for humility:
https://charleseisenstein.org/essays/the-conspiracy-myth/?_page=3

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Today, the broad consensus trust in science and journalism is in tatters. I know several highly educated people who believe the earth is flat. By dismissing flat-earthers and the tens of millions of adherents to less extreme alternative narratives (historical, medical, political, and scientific) as ignorant, we are mistaking symptom for cause. Their loss of trust is a clear symptom of a loss of trustworthiness. Our institutions of knowledge production have betrayed public trust repeatedly, as have our political institutions. Now, many people won’t believe them even when they tell the truth. This must be frustrating to the scrupulous doctor, scientist, or public official. To them, the problem looks like a public gone mad, a rising tide of anti-scientific irrationality that is endangering public health. The solution, from that perspective, would be to combat ignorance. It is almost as if ignorance is a virus (in fact, I have heard that phrase before) that must be controlled through the same kind of quarantine (for example, censorship) that we apply to the coronavirus.


Really we cannot contain it?
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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2020 8:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Italian Politician Demands Bill Gates Arrest For Crimes Against Humanity

If you want we would be happy to ship Sara Cunial to whatever country wants her ....
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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2020 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If you want we would be happy to ship Sara Cunial to whatever country wants her ....


Man, you are being seriously screwed over by the elites. They are rapidly taking away your basic rights. Many people including you may end up in FEMA camps surrounded by barbed wire fences if you don't stand up against tyranny.
China already runs multiple concentration camps which are also known as rape camps. Concentration camps are coming to your country. The train is fast approaching you and will run you over. You can see the train light.
What happens in China today is the model for what happens to other countries tomorrow. China is an experimentation ground for the global elites.

Your children and grandchildren may have to put up with checkpoints and concentration camps.

A lot of people are waking up to the fraud. In order to make up for many people waking up, they may even make people sick by spraying you with toxic chemtrail or irradiating you with 5G at 60Ghz during the second wave planned around September.
They can definitely fake various respiratory symptoms with chemtrail and 5G at 60Ghz. They bribe hospitals to diagnose any respiratory symptom as COVID-19 and designate any death as a COVID-19 death without any test nowadays.
By the way, many governments got permission to use 5G at 60Ghz. Wake up, man. They fake symptoms of supposedly contagious diseases by distributing chemical poison and electromagnetic poison. They have to fake symptoms and diagnosis because COVID-19 doesn't really exist in the form that the mainstream media portrays. They had to make COVID-19 in a biolab because they wanted to create a virus that they could patent and own. They can't own a naturally occuring virus. Bill Gates owns COVID-19 patent and thus coronavirus vaccine. In order to patent and own a vaccine that will make Bill Gates trillions of dollars, they had to create an artificial virus. But, the virus isn't biologically dangerous at all.

Your enemy is the hermetic global ruling structure that has infiltrated most governments and most of the mainstream media over centuries.
Bill Gates is merely a rich gofer for the secretive global ruling structure which controls more than 600 trillion dollars through central banking system. Because they control intelligence agencies and most of the mainstream media, they will just paint people like me as crazy conspiracy theorists or censor such people or send their agents to kidnap, rape, and kill some of them. Bilderberg Group owns a lot of mainstream media outlets. Bilderberg group is a part of the global ruling structure.

It is basically similar to the global climate change hoax which used to be called global warming. According to their computer models, north pole should have melted by now. Global climate is largely controlled by the sun. It has very little to do with human activities. They tried to make humans think they are the problems. COVID-19 hoax also makes humans think they are the problems. The global ruling structure offers their version of the problem, the solution to which is always fascist one-world government.

They are invading earth with everything they have.

If you want to know more, start with these links. Share these links, or we can all go to FEMA camps if we let them run rampant.
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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2020 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You guys are getting carried away in details and fail to see the whole picture.
In ancient Rome people gathered in Forum and discussed it exactly the same. How the Empire is suffering, what do do about barbarians at northern border, etc, etc. They had lots of good ideas how to fix it all. None of it worked, the fall of Empire was inevitable. Because its time was over, it was rotten, corrupted, in short - it was getting old and it was the time to die.
Today we are witnessing the same, it would be of no use to fight it. Relax, sit back and make sure you do have a good chance survive whatever a dying civilization will throw at you.
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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2020 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You guys are getting carried away in details and fail to see the whole picture.
In ancient Rome people gathered in Forum and discussed it exactly the same. How the Empire is suffering, what do do about barbarians at northern border, etc, etc. They had lots of good ideas how to fix it all. None of it worked,


Because they didn't hit the root cause, 5G.
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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2020 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

2.4GHz is absorbable by water.
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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2020 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Naib wrote:
2.4GHz is absorbable by water.


Yep and that's molten ice and the sea levels are rising, homeless polar bears - lumpy custard with me pudding today, it's all wireless.
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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2020 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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They can't own a naturally occuring virus. Bill Gates owns COVID-19 patent and thus coronavirus vaccine. In order to patent and own a vaccine that will make Bill Gates trillions of dollars, they had to create an artificial virus. But, the virus isn't biologically dangerous at all.

That's nice: Only a death rate at 0.4% of all infected with Sars-CoV-2
Thank you Bill Gates training our global civilization against the case of a more deadly pandemic to surely come!
But Bill Gates: You have missed your goal to cut down world population to a sustainable 500 million, haven't you?

... What a dumb effort it is, @crocket, to take every conspiracy theory there ever existed and put them all together.
At last: You cannot pertain any patent showing how to make someone ill. CoVid-19 is the illness.

[EDIT] I am just recognizing you gave up with your anthroposophical idea there are no viruses existing?
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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2020 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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... What a dumb effort it is, @crocket, to take every conspiracy theory there ever existed and put them all together.


Or is it ?


That's what they want you to think.
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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2020 3:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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They had to make COVID-19 in a biolab because they wanted to create a virus that they could patent and own. They can't own a naturally occuring virus. Bill Gates owns COVID-19 patent and thus coronavirus vaccine. In order to patent and own a vaccine that will make Bill Gates trillions of dollars, they had to create an artificial virus. But, the virus isn't biologically dangerous at all.


where is your empirical evidence? I'm still waiting!
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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2020 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sugar wrote:
crocket wrote:
They had to make COVID-19 in a biolab because they wanted to create a virus that they could patent and own. They can't own a naturally occuring virus. Bill Gates owns COVID-19 patent and thus coronavirus vaccine. In order to patent and own a vaccine that will make Bill Gates trillions of dollars, they had to create an artificial virus. But, the virus isn't biologically dangerous at all.


where is your empirical evidence? I'm still waiting!


He could at least give us the email of his pusher, the stuff is probably good ...
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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2020 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sugar wrote:
where is your empirical evidence? I'm still waiting!


I don't even know what you mean by empirical evidence. I'm starting to think you just want to deny my theory unconditionally. I'm not going to entertain your requests.
It's now my turn to ask for your evidences. What is your empirical evidence? You have presented none. I have presented many.
If you want to compete with me, you better start presenting links and evidences.


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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2020 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look. Conspiracy theory is a term coined by the global elites. I would call it alternative non-mainstream theory. Anything that goes against the official narrative is called conspiracy nowadays.
Come to your own unbiased conclusion after spending at least some time with my links. Don't set the strong intention to poke holes in the materials and close your mind to them. That's already a prejudice.

Government wants you to believe that government and the mainstream media are the only sources of truths.
As long as you think they are the only sources of truths and automatically reject non-mainstream theories without even understanding them, you will never explore truths beyond the mainstream narratives.

Of course, the governments and the mainstream media aren't going to lie to you. Certainly, they are not going to lie that big. (They would.)

So, when you refute a theory, don't just say the mainstream media said it was a crazy conspiracy theory. Saying that something is a conspiracy theory doesn't mean anything. What real arguments other than calling it a conspiracy theory do you have?


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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2020 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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He could at least give us the email of his pusher, the stuff is probably good ...


US coronavirus patent
PirBright Institute's coronavirus patent
coronavirus patent owned by PirBright institute
PirBright institute is controlled by bill gates.
With coronavirus patents, Bill Gates owns coronavirus vaccine. He certainly can with his health if he wants to.


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So, anybody back at work yet ? old JB is still working from home and looks to be for the next few weeks at least.
Before during and after have been the same. Apart from the girlfriend has been stuck at home for 2 months. Thankfully it has been warm and sunny most of the time so she's been sunbathing in the garden on full pay. She's now back at work.
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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2020 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I am just recognizing you gave up with your anthroposophical idea there are no viruses existing?


I wrote COVID-19 doesn't exist in the form that the mainstream media portrays. Viruses exist, but all medically relevant viruses including HIV, Ebola, etc, ... aren't actually dangerous.
Millions of americans already have HIV in their bodies without any problem.


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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2020 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mass anti-lockdown protests across the globe
ROSS CLARK: Neil Ferguson's lockdown predictions are so dodgy that you wouldn't even ask him what day Christmas is on

ATTENTION // The evidence that the mainstream media outlets are co-ordinated by one powerful entity. They all read the same exact scripts written by the same entity. Wake up. Mainstream media are mind-control scam operations that treat humans like herds.

Watch this video series by corbett report. This series is gold.
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COVID-19 - MEDICAL DECREE BY MORONS FOR DEMOCIDE BY PROXY // An old man talks about COVID-19 while walking in a forest.
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PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2020 8:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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An old man talks about COVID-19 while walking in a forest.


That's nice, haven't clicked the link in case he's a naturist.
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PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2020 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Found on Twitter from respected source: Having the ApoE4 Gen, what indicates you are a candidate for Alzheimer disease, also predicts you'll be hospitalized with CoVid-19. This may be the same condition that causes you go for dementia after having been ventilated.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apolipoprotein_E#Alzheimer's_disease
Edit: I found the scientific preprint pdf
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Ill informing in the U.S. :
There is wind, there is sun, there is a wide beach, there is no harm from Coronavirus here ... not even when standing close to strangers without masks. All of the spreading events happen indoors.
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I hate to talk about this virus shit, but just my two cents from Romania, EU:

- we already ended the "martial law" I don't know how to translate, the term here word by word was "emergency state", and now we are in "alert state", with freedom to leave home without a written declaration.
- pubs are still closed, but most of the shops except very large malls (>15000 square meters) are now open
- wearing a mask is mandatory inside closed public spaces and public transportation, but not mandatory outside
- on the streets, some people still wear a mask even if this is not required by law, which tells me the population is still scared

- I personally know nobody (neighbors, friends or family) who died from SARS-COV-19 virus
- I personally know people who got a bad and weird ugly flu that might have been COVID-19, but not tested yet (including myself, during February, way before the first gov measures in Romania), but no death
- we have an official webpage were all the death cases are listed together with their comorbidity (preexisting illnesses). Most of the deceased were already very, very, sick, with terminal cancer, terminal heart diseases, on dialysis, obese, diabetics, retards or just old people (70..80+). Official data for Romania each deceased here: https://stirioficiale.ro/informatii

- there were virologist doctors warning we overreact, but their opinion was not spread by the media
- some doctors reported a few young and healthy people died, but they suspect it was because hospital bugs and respiratory equipment, yet they were counted as covid19 victims because they were tested as positive
- some doctors complained about death certificates for terminally ill people that were also positive tested for covid19: even if they were to die anyway from another ill, the cause of death on the death certificate was covid19, and without autopsy.
- there were some closed areas with people put into quarantine because they were tested positive, yet they didn't developed any symptoms, and after two weeks the mandatory quarantine was ended.

- there are harsh laws (with debatable application instructions) against those that oppose the official gov measures

- demonstrations are still forbidden by the current emergency laws, yet there were some spontaneous demonstrations that were not repressed by force (there were not many people, maybe hundreds, not more)

- the total count so far is 1'223 covid19 deaths for about 20'000'000 total Romanian population.
- the total death count from all cases over the spring months in Romania was lower for 2020 than for 2019
- there are other viruses right now disregarded because of covid19, for example 20'000 cases of child measles vs about 15'000 total confirmed so far with covid19.

- sick people are complaining because "normal" patients are refused medical care by hospitals that were turned into covid19 hospitals, yet the covid19 hospitals here are mostly empty, with 1-10 patients in a hospital that otherwise use to have thousands of "normal" hospitalization cases per month.

- so far, the rumor is former eastern European countries have small covid19 mortality because we use to have mandatory vaccination as kids (e.g. against TBC mandatory vaccination made as kids in the former communist or socialist regimes under the iron curtain), some of those vaccines might have also covered the current virus, but this is yet to be tested, just a hypotheses.



My personal impressions so far is, in Romania, we grossly overreacted with anti covid19 protection measures (maybe the whole world overreacted, too, but I can't really know that), and what I am really concerned about is the economy that was halted for 2-3 month, and not the virus. I also suspect the covid19 tests are unreliable, or they detect something else.

As a last thought, we have here a free testing program, but I will personally avoid it at all costs for the fear of a fake positive. Also, in the case of a flu, I will isolate myself and avoid going to the hospital, for the fear of catching some other diseases present in the hospitals. As a last resort, even if in a worst case and hospitalized, I will avoid being put on a respirator at all costs, because of the risk of hospital invincible bugs infections associated with the respirators.

I hope this "deadly virus" planetary madness will end soon, and not too late for the economy.
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PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2020 4:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RoGeorge wrote:
My personal impressions so far is, in Romania, we grossly overreacted with anti covid19 protection measures (maybe the whole world overreacted, too, but I can't really know that), and what I am really concerned about is the economy that was halted for 2-3 month, and not the virus. I also suspect the covid19 tests are unreliable, or they detect something else.

As a last thought, we have here a free testing program, but I will personally avoid it at all costs for the fear of a fake positive. Also, in the case of a flu, I will isolate myself and avoid going to the hospital, for the fear of catching some other diseases present in the hospitals. As a last resort, even if in a worst case and hospitalized, I will avoid being put on a respirator at all costs, because of the risk of hospital invincible bugs infections associated with the respirators.

I hope this "deadly virus" planetary madness will end soon, and not too late for the economy.


Watch this video series by james corbett. If you don't have time for all videos, just watch `Meet Bill Gates`.


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