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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You still have GE Medical Systems, I suppose.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You still have GE Medical Systems, I suppose.

Hows life in India these days? (Assuming you are still there.)
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Thanks! Sounds like situation isn't very good.

Those big tech companies have been shipping jobs elsewhere, mainly in Canada, UK and Ireland. I was wondering why.

Definitely not good. Just read yesterday that Varian, a very large medical company that makes radiation oncology systems, is going to be bought by Siemens. I'm not sure if this has been in the works for a while, or if it is response to the current crisis. If it is pandemic-recession based, than that is a pretty bad sign for the US - flagship bio-tech company bought by foreign competitor.
I know it is not pandemic related:
Siemens in Germany is bad mouthed for being a bank, because they have too much money and no ideas for new inventions despite they are a technical company. The reason for that is, that in Germany the funding of startups is .zero due to our risk avoiding mentality.

The merger has a reasonable plan and pushes Siemens shares despite buying in the U.S. everytime was very much too expensive:
- Deutsche Telekom needed more than a decade to get to profits
- Mercedes with Chrysler never got there
- costs for Monsanto lawsuits are much higher than expected

Nevertheless the money coming to the U.S. from these german companies can be used in California for the next big thing of a tiny startup there.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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richk449 wrote:
notageek wrote:
Thanks! Sounds like situation isn't very good.

Those big tech companies have been shipping jobs elsewhere, mainly in Canada, UK and Ireland. I was wondering why.

Definitely not good. Just read yesterday that Varian, a very large medical company that makes radiation oncology systems, is going to be bought by Siemens. I'm not sure if this has been in the works for a while, or if it is response to the current crisis. If it is pandemic-recession based, than that is a pretty bad sign for the US - flagship bio-tech company bought by foreign competitor.
I know it is not pandemic related:
Siemens in Germany is bad mouthed for being a bank, because they have too much money and no ideas for new inventions despite they are a technical company. The reason for that is, that in Germany the funding of startups is .zero due to our risk avoiding mentality.

The merger has a reasonable plan and pushes Siemens shares despite buying in the U.S. everytime was very much too expensive:
- Deutsche Telekom needed more than a decade to get to profits
- Mercedes with Chrysler never got there
- costs for Monsanto lawsuits are much higher than expected

Nevertheless the money coming to the U.S. from these german companies can be used in California for the next big thing of a tiny startup there.

Sure, it makes sense from Siemens point of view. But why did Varian agree to it? One possibility is that they have roughly saturated the market in the US, and need a bigger bank account to push into the rest of the world.

Varian was founded around here many decades ago (one of the original silicon valley startups), and right now, there are a ton of local companies trying to compete with them. It will be interesting to see how this merger affects the ability of these startups to grow.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 12:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Sure, it makes sense from Siemens point of view. But why did Varian agree to it?
German companies pay:
16 billions is much money. And together they want to make sense, because cancer treatment is an innovating domain these days with AI computing available.
siemens-healthineers.com wrote:
Two proven leaders in medical technology, Varian and Siemens have joined together in pursuit of shaping the future of cancer care. Combining Varian's Energy, its innovative delivery systems and treatment planning tools with Siemen's Vision, its imaging excellence, this "EnVision" partnership expands the possibilities in cancer treatment. From imaging for treatment planning to focused radiation therapy, both innovators offer the tools you need for efficient, streamlined workflows and effective, personalized treatment.

Streamlined clinical process
More options for early detection, accurate diagnosis, and powerful treatment
Combined commitment to a new age of cancer care

In the past Siemens built nuclear facilities. That increased the risk for cancer. Now they make that a business. Oh, what a wonderful world ...
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 12:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ulenrich wrote:
richk449 wrote:
Sure, it makes sense from Siemens point of view. But why did Varian agree to it?
German companies pay:
16 billions is much money. And together they want to make sense, because cancer treatment is an innovating domain these days with AI computing available.
siemens-healthineers.com wrote:
Two proven leaders in medical technology, Varian and Siemens have joined together in pursuit of shaping the future of cancer care. Combining Varian's Energy, its innovative delivery systems and treatment planning tools with Siemen's Vision, its imaging excellence, this "EnVision" partnership expands the possibilities in cancer treatment. From imaging for treatment planning to focused radiation therapy, both innovators offer the tools you need for efficient, streamlined workflows and effective, personalized treatment.

Streamlined clinical process
More options for early detection, accurate diagnosis, and powerful treatment
Combined commitment to a new age of cancer care

In the past Siemens built nuclear facilities. That increased the risk for cancer. Now they make that business. Oh, what a wonderful world ...


Hmm, maybe the combination of imaging and treatment is part of the appeal. Many of the new startups have an imaging aspect to them - one does NRM simultaneously with x-ray treatment, another combines PET scanning with x-ray treatment. Maybe Varian felt they could not compete. I doubt it though - they are orders of magnitude bigger than the startups doing it, so there is no reason they wouldn't have the capability. And if they are too big to be nimble, then merging with a former Siemens division is definitely not the cure.

Side note: nuclear power plants don't substantially increase the risk of cancer (aside form the very poorly designed Russian ones). Compared to coal, they put significantly less radioactivity into the air.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 12:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And if they are too big to be nimble, then merging with a former Siemens division is definitely not the cure.
That exactly is the point of risk with that merger: Some years ago the story of Mercedes with Chrysler was ending in a disaster costing plenty of billions. (I remember the buyer of Chrysler was paid to do so by Mercedes, meaning Mercedes paid the price for buying again to get loose)
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 2:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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notageek wrote:
You still have GE Medical Systems, I suppose.

Hows life in India these days? (Assuming you are still there.)
Yeah, I'm safe.

Infection rates have been increasing ever since the lockdown ended and rates doubled within weeks. We have the government provided contact tracing app, which tells you how many infections are in certain radius. Just after the lockdown ended, in 10km radius, there were ~12 infections, now there are 961. These are numbers from people using smartphone. You can imagine what is the situation like for people who're not using such phones.

As for the economy, both state and central governments are running scared because they've not been able to earn revenues through tax. Economy itself isn't doing well. As for tech industry, most of them have given the benefit of working from home to its employees but there have been layoffs every other day. This despite the government asking companies not to do that.

Not sure how manufacturing sector is doing. Car sales have been down, which is an indicator for our manufacturing. Maruti Suzuki is India's biggest car manufacturer and seller by numbers and yet, there were no Maruti sales for some time. If people are not buying Maruti, they're probably not buying any other cars.

Education, most people are learning through e-classes. Certain exams were cancelled and average marks were given to children. There's debate going on about whether to have final year exams for colleges, with the governing bodying setting a deadline of September to conduct exams. States have been pushing back.

The central government has taken this period as an opportunity to push through certain controversial reforms and then there is the threat of war with China, which there's growing realization that we'll stand alone in case of a conflict. Traditional allies such as Russia and France have been providing weapons but that's about it.

Regarding vaccines, there are at least 2-3 on human trials. Covaxin is the name of one. I don't recall the names of others. The body responsible for controlling COVID suggested that by Aug 15 there should be vaccine available. The medical and scientist community rubbished the idea. Seems like the earliest we can get a vaccine is by next year June.

Needless to say, people who rely on daily wage/earnings have all started to go out as if there's no pandemic.

Certain states are worse than others and not many people travelling out of their home states.

Basically, it's free for all.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 3:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Basically, it's free for all.

Yea, that seems to sum it up pretty well. Thanks for the update. I hope tensions with China wind down - nothing good will come from that.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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In the past Siemens built nuclear facilities. That increased the risk for cancer.


That affirmation looks like it is coming straight from the propaganda books.

Nuclear energy does not give cancer. Where from is that info? I suspect it's from some documentary. Nuclear energy is one of the most careful industry about waste or pollution, and one of the most controlled. For example, when we did an automation (SCADA) for the power station of the nuclear power plant at Cernavoda/Romania, the background radiation in the nuclear plant area was even lower than the background in the nearby cities. About the nuclear waste, there are countless measures and procedures regarding storage and disposal, so they won't become a long term hazard.

Nuclear energy is the cleanest form of energy we have, the most reliable we have, and the cheapest we have. Its main drawback is that it requires a big pile of money upfront, to built, but in the long term (decades) nuclear (fission) energy is by far the best we have.

Even so, some activists emotionally believe "nuclear bad" because "cancer". It is more complicated than that. Other forms of energy have their drawbacks, too. They kill, too, each in its own ways. If it were to be that simple (nuclear energy == cancer), by now we would have settled down this dispute already, like we (the humans) did e.g. with all the radioactive casual devices and treatments that we were proliferating during the 50's.

"Nuclear energy bad" fight is like "5G bad" fight, but tuned for the leftists' activists taste.

It's kind of sad to see the world divided by ideologies, almost slipping back again into ignorance and dark ages, driven by emotions and fears instead of being driven by reasoning and tolerance. We are heading to a new type of superstition, this time a science based superstition, instead of the former divinity based superstition.

Electricity is a key element of the nowadays civilization. Cheap electricity shaped the world as we know it, and enabled the comfort we have today. Without electricity (even for a single month) the world will fall back into dark ages. Dark ages the same as it was in the medieval dark ages, with all the barbarism, ignorance and superstitions, except this time it will not be called the medieval dark ages, but the post industrial and post informational dark ages.

So, no, nuclear energy is not bad and does not give cancer. The real cancer here is the ideology that "nuclear bad".
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Watch Before Its Taken Down!!!! Millions Protest In Germany Against Restrictions

Millions of germans protest on streets against COVID lockdown during world war coronavirus. In world war c, the weapons of war are fear, lockdown, food shortage, and violence, but not virus.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A long feature in english language about the german fight against Coronavirus by "Der Spiegel"
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Is the Australian fascistic government paying nursing homes $25,000 for every death they label ‘Covid’ when they died of something else?

They bribe nursing homes with 25,000 dollars for each death relabeled as COVID death. If you lie about causes of death, you become rich.
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Neck circumference as reliable predictor of mechanical ventilation support in adult in patients with COVID‐19
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Is the Australian fascistic government paying nursing homes $25,000 for every death they label ‘Covid’ when they died of something else?

They bribe nursing homes with 25,000 dollars for each death relabeled as COVID death. If you lie about causes of death, you become rich.

You realise that Victoria has returned to stage 4 lockdowns? People are panic-buying toilet paper again in the one hr per day that they are lawfully allowed out of their homes.
People are pretty unhappy about this, particularly as other states are going about their regular business, attending football, eating in restaurants etc..

Conspiracy theories are rife when people are that unhappy, and the idea that the Govt is paying for false death certificates is on the outer lunatic fringe of those. It's drivel.

Covid is a prick of a thing for the old and particularly so for the old and fat/unhealthy. Not much you can do about being old, a lot you can do about how you are when you get there. So, whilst I'm personally unconvinced that the problem has been properly handled, creating hard borders within the country, locking productive members of society up based on postcode... and so on. Fuck me, there's a lot wrong with all of that; but to constantly reprise the meme that this pandemic doesn't exist is just more of the same batshit crazy disinformation I've come to expect from you. Why do you bother?

Mother nature is thinning the herd, about the same number of people are likely to die from this thing no matter what measures are taken imo, all we're talking about doing with these economic and civil deprivations is spreading these deaths over a longer time so Governments can say 'look, we took medical advice and did everything we could..' It's as effective as rearranging the deckchairs, but if you live here and you voted for these idiots, this is their plan.

How does a Government who is desperate to report that these measures are reducing the spread and death-toll of Covid benefit from this latest kernel of shit from your heroes over at David Icke's 'alternative truth' site? Do you completely lack the capacity for any form of critical thinking?
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2020 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Is the Australian fascistic government paying nursing homes $25,000 for every death they label ‘Covid’ when they died of something else?

They bribe nursing homes with 25,000 dollars for each death relabeled as COVID death. If you lie about causes of death, you become rich.


evidence please?
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2020 1:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sugar wrote:
crocket wrote:
Is the Australian fascistic government paying nursing homes $25,000 for every death they label ‘Covid’ when they died of something else?

They bribe nursing homes with 25,000 dollars for each death relabeled as COVID death. If you lie about causes of death, you become rich.


evidence please?
Why do you have to ask him this question? The answer is: Every month an old CoVid-19 patient is treated the institution gets 25t bugs.
... it is about framing without thinking.
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Why do you have to ask him this question? The answer is: Every month an old CoVid-19 patient is treated the institution gets 25t bugs.
... it is about framing without thinking.


When someone dies in a care house and the dead person's cause of death is relabeled as COVID-19, the care house gets 25,000 dollars.
Treatment is not necessary to get 25,000 dollars.
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L.A. Mayor Threatens To Cut Off Water To Houses And Businesses Hosting ‘Large’ Parties // This is about restricting the right of assembly.

UK Gives Town Councils Power To Bulldoze 'Contaminated' Homes To Contain Outbreak // This is not about protecting you. They are waging war against you.

COVID-19 Strike Teams Shut Down Farms - FoodWars Go Hot // COVID-19 agenda includes food shortage. They are destroying your food supply.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2020 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Who Is Bill Gates?" by KODOMOSAN

This video is only 4 minutes long.
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Recent beirut bombing conveniently destroyed food distribution center. Food distribution centers are being bombed all over the world.
Some people in melbourne are talking about shutting down abattoirs, using COVID-19 as an excuse. They are also shutting down biggest farms in many countries because they are allegedly infected with COVID.

Bombs and COVID-19 are being used to shut down food distribution and food production. They are trying to engineer mass global food shortage and starve as many people as possible to death.
Engineered mass starvation had killed more people than guns and bombs in 20th century. Mass starvation is your enemy's favorite tactic. It's safe and effective. You kill enemies without exposing your identity.

Welcome to 4th generation warfare where most people on earth are destruction targets. You don't know who your enemies are. You don't know the end goal. You don't know that you are a target. You don't even know that you are in a war. You have no clue.
Most people are so clueless that they help their enemies kill them. Politicians of almost every country are trying to kill their own citizens. Eternal vigilance is the cost of freedom and prosperity.
World economic forum's COVID action platform is largely how your enemies conduct 4th generation warfare. Go research COVID action platform. You can examine it yourself. You can find videos about it.
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You don't know who your enemies are.


Old JB does, that woman who looked at me a bit funny in the supermarket last week.
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Russian vaccine. Sputnik V. Ready.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Russian vaccine. Sputnik V. Ready.
The Sputnik shock repeated ?
Maybe this Sputnik is like in the 1950s: Ready for a dog to ride.
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No way I am gonna take it, not even for the money. Not only it is rushed as I predicted, but also used for propaganda purposes, "Sputnik-V" nice one...
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