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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Coronavirus: Government admits its Test and Trace programme is unlawful
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Study: Average Person Becomes Unhinged Psychotic When Alone In Own House
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Average person fooey.
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DeSantis "concerned" after people who weren't tested for COVID-19 receive positive results

Now, you get positive results for COVID-19 even if you aren't tested.
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That sounds extra efficient, since test false results are too high and most cases never get tested; add administative blundering.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trump announced the pandemic is under control half a year ago.
But half of the 4million infected were tested last month ago. That makes it an exponential curve.
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https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/patient-flow/our-backs-are-to-the-wall-texas-hospital-to-turn-away-covid-19-patients-with-poor-survival-chances.html
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'Our backs are to the wall': Texas hospital to turn away COVID-19 patients with poor survival chances

A Texas hospital has formed an ethics committee to screen all COVID-19 patients for survival potential and send home those with low survival chances, according to Border Report.

Rio Grande City, Texas-based Starr County Memorial Hospital, implemented an ethics committee and a triage committee to review incoming COVID-19 patients, Starr County Health Authority Jose Vazquez, MD, said during a July 21 videoconference call. The committees will determine what type of treatment patients will likely require and whether they are likely to survive. Those deemed too fragile, sick or elderly will be advised to go home. Patients with low recovery chances will be better cared for at home with loved ones rather than dying at a hospital thousands of miles away, Dr. Vazquez said.

"There is nowhere to put these patients. The whole state of Texas and neighboring states have no ICU beds to spare for us," Dr. Vazquez said. The county of 61,000 residents has recorded 1,573 COVID-19 cases and 16 related deaths with 27 fatality cases pending, according to Border Report. As of July 22, 11,461 of 55,263 hospital beds are available statewide, with 1,088 ICU beds open. Currently, Texas has more COVID-19 patients hospitalized than any other state, with 10,848 COVID-19 patients as of July 22.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 7:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tucker: Dr. Fauci seems to forget masks are important shows dr. Fauci knows mask is bullshit and a tool of control.
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HOW THEY PULLED OFF THE 'PANDEMIC' - AN ANIMATED FILM EXPLANATION BY DAVID ICKE is a short comprehensive explanation of how the global cult pulled off pandemic hoax.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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HOW THEY PULLED OFF THE 'PANDEMIC' - AN ANIMATED FILM EXPLANATION BY DAVID ICKE is a short comprehensive explanation of how the global cult pulled off pandemic hoax.

So YOU are the mouthpiece of the Spider. I love a good conspiracy theory. One of you is nuts.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So YOU are the mouthpiece of the Spider. I love a good conspiracy theory. One of you is nuts.


You are misrepresenting my words. You haven't watched the whole video. I hate spider. A mouthpiece for the spider doesn't expose spider. Bill Gates is a mouthpiece for the spider.

I think you have been conditioned to not look at things if they are called conspiracy theories by mainstream media.
A conspiracy theory is anything that goes against mainstream media. Anything that goes against mainstream media can be true or false. If you want to validate or invalidate a theory, do your own research. No one else can do research for you.

I understand that people don't have time to look into everything. As a rule, be neutral toward things you don't know much about, and look into a thing if it's something you never heard of.
Assuming that anything that's not mainstream is nuts betrays that you really don't know much.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So YOU are the mouthpiece of the Spider. I love a good conspiracy theory. One of you is nuts.


You are misrepresenting my words. You haven't watched the whole video. I hate spider. A mouthpiece for the spider doesn't expose spider. Bill Gates is a mouthpiece for the spider.

I watched the full crackpot video. It is projecting a conspiracy theory, which, by definition, are NOT true.

There is an agenda to destabilize constitutional authority in the free nations of the world. Straight out of the Marxist's and/or antivaxer's playbook. Bill Gates' work is heroic, except to conspiracy theorists. Antivaxers are tools of the Marxists.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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figueroa wrote:
So YOU are the mouthpiece of the Spider. I love a good conspiracy theory. One of you is nuts.


You are misrepresenting my words. You haven't watched the whole video. I hate spider. A mouthpiece for the spider doesn't expose spider. Bill Gates is a mouthpiece for the spider.

I watched the full crackpot video. It is projecting a conspiracy theory, which, by definition, are NOT true.

There is an agenda to destabilize constitutional authority in the free nations of the world. Straight out of the Marxist's and/or antivaxer's playbook. Bill Gates' work is heroic, except to conspiracy theorists. Antivaxers are tools of the Marxists.

The only consitent theory of the video is that David Icke should have more money. In regards of all other issues he contradicts himself.

We all know what a totalitarian dictatiorship has achieved already: 1989
In what aspects this central cult is different ?
A few minutes later he comes up with chairman Mao .... were I left the audience.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bill Gates has a diffentiated take on opening schools in the interview. I can't see any personal gains he tries to acquire in the whole interview, because he emphasizes treatment and a new revolutionary fast testing of the disease. I think such testing could eradicate Sars-Cov2 faster than you could vaccinate the population of the earth....

The interview with the swedish authority who is responsible in his country I cannot assess: Is he defensive and just hiding?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

While Brasilian president Bolsonaro wins his deathmatch after 2 weeks and tested negatively some countries in Europe are on the verge to hit a second wave if they are not able to trace daily ca 1t new infections (doubles the last weeks daily infections): Spain and Germany ...
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd like to throw this in here: https://swprs.org/a-swiss-doctor-on-covid-19/
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'd like to throw this in here: https://swprs.org/a-swiss-doctor-on-covid-19/

"Overall, we rate Swiss Policy Research (SPR) a Moderate Conspiracy website based on the promotion of unproven claims. We also rate them Mixed for factual reporting due to the use of poor sources and complete lack of transparency." https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/swiss-policy-research/

In other words, be careful where you get your facts. They might be laces with something you didn't mean to take away.

Ever here of agenda-driven?

So, continuing: "Swiss Policy Research completely lacks transparency as there is not a single name affiliated with the website. For example, an editor is not named and articles do not name an author. Further, they do not list a geographic location and the domain is registered privately. Finally, ownership is not disclosed."
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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In other words, be careful where you get your facts. They might be laces with something you didn't mean to take away.

Ever here of agenda-driven?

Of course, you should always be careful no matter what you hear or read.
"Read everything, listen to everybody, believe nothing unless you can prove it"
On that note one should not judge a source >purely< by just looking it up on a site like mediabiasfactcheck and decide one should or should not read it at all.
If you do that too long you will find yourself not reading anything with opposing viewpoints, which will result in ignorance or even worse: brainwashing.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'd like to throw this in here: https://swprs.org/a-swiss-doctor-on-covid-19/
I do know everything of the beginning of the page (the numbered facts). So, I didn't read further. What do you find there is new? I guess if you would have followed all the 4 parts of our thread you would have known much more.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 6:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I watched the full crackpot video. It is projecting a conspiracy theory, which, by definition, are NOT true.

There is an agenda to destabilize constitutional authority in the free nations of the world. Straight out of the Marxist's and/or antivaxer's playbook. Bill Gates' work is heroic, except to conspiracy theorists. Antivaxers are tools of the Marxists.


Did you just make that up? Or, do you have links to articles or references?

Marxism itself was yet another social engineering experiment by the global elites. The actual end goal of marxism is one-world government, not abolition of government.
If you don't know the end goal, you can easily make things up without making sense.

By the way, it's not about destabilizing constitutional authority. Authority itself is a tool of the global elites. The global elites destabilize an authority only to replace it with another. They always want to replace an existing authority with a more totalitarian authority.
Forget about marxism. Focus on who funds marxism to which ends. Find connections via money, parents, secret societies, etc, ... Find out their end goals. If you know their end goal, you figure out their actual ideologies.
Their ideologies include eugenics and slavery. It's a war between voluntaryists and people who want to own slaves.

https://www.corbettreport.com/gates/ and https://www.corbettreport.com/from-bioethics-to-eugenics/ reveal bill gates as a eugenicist.

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One of the iconic moments from my Who Is Bill Gates? documentary is the clip of Gates at the 2010 Aspen Ideas Festival discussing a proposal to increase funding for public education by diverting money from end-of-life care for the elderly and terminally ill.

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Then, squirming around in his seat and looking over at the audience, Gates acknowledges that there may be some objection to this line of thinking: “But that’s called the ‘death panel’ and you’re not supposed to have that discussion.”
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An Australian teen is in hot water after he allegedly exposed sensitive medical information concerning COVID-19 patients being treated in a local hospital. While the authorities in Western Australia were quick to paint the unidentified teen as a malicious, balaclava-wearing hacker spending his idle days cracking into secure systems, a narrative local media were all too willing to parrot, reading down past the breathless headlines reveals the truth: the teen set up an SDR to receive unencrypted POCSAG pager data from a hospital, and built a web page to display it all in real-time. We’ve covered the use of unsecured pager networks in the medical profession before; this is a well-known problem that should not exactly take any infosec pros by surprise. Apparently authorities just hoped that nobody would spend $20 on an SDR and an afternoon putting it all together rather than address the real problem, and when found out they shifted the blame onto the kid.

Source: https://hackaday.com/2020/07/26/hackaday-links-july-26-2020/
https://www.9news.com.au/national/coronavirus-western-australia-wa-data-breach-minor-allegedly-involved-site-shut-down/f80d8b89-47ba-42c4-9a1b-829eee7cb3e6

LOL-ed hard at this "data breach incident". :D
Especially for it was coming from Australia, the country that has laws against the use of end to end encryption, because "terrorists" might use it. :roll:

The institutions were radio broadcasting pager messages used internally between employees, and somebody have had the curiosity to listen to them with an USB dongle. This "hacking" is as simple as sticking the head outside a door, and listening to what the neighbors are speaking loudly between them, in the hallway. The kid did nothing wrong.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

More effective than any medical treatment of CoVid-19 (but a bit late):
Johnson to announce new anti-obesity measures amid fears of coronavirus second wave
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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An Australian teen is in hot water after he allegedly exposed sensitive medical information concerning COVID-19 patients being treated in a local hospital. While the authorities in Western Australia were quick to paint the unidentified teen as a malicious, balaclava-wearing hacker spending his idle days cracking into secure systems, a narrative local media were all too willing to parrot, reading down past the breathless headlines reveals the truth: the teen set up an SDR to receive unencrypted POCSAG pager data from a hospital, and built a web page to display it all in real-time. We’ve covered the use of unsecured pager networks in the medical profession before; this is a well-known problem that should not exactly take any infosec pros by surprise. Apparently authorities just hoped that nobody would spend $20 on an SDR and an afternoon putting it all together rather than address the real problem, and when found out they shifted the blame onto the kid.

Source: https://hackaday.com/2020/07/26/hackaday-links-july-26-2020/
https://www.9news.com.au/national/coronavirus-western-australia-wa-data-breach-minor-allegedly-involved-site-shut-down/f80d8b89-47ba-42c4-9a1b-829eee7cb3e6

LOL-ed hard at this "data breach incident". :D
Especially for it was coming from Australia, the country that has laws against the use of end to end encryption, because "terrorists" might use it. :roll:

The institutions were radio broadcasting pager messages used internally between employees, and somebody have had the curiosity to listen to them with an USB dongle. This "hacking" is as simple as sticking the head outside a door, and listening to what the neighbors are speaking loudly between them, in the hallway. The kid did nothing wrong.


The kid did nothing wrong in obtaining the data, I'm not so sure running it live into the web is quite so innocent. The spin is typical.

Our commercial msm is utterly and venally self interested; so the fact that they ran that pure bullshit angle probably has more to do with the advertorial wrapper they put across the story to pitch an 'upcoming IT special on how to secure your wireless data' on the back of a couple of storyline updates cued with ominous music, darkened graphics and shadowy hooded silhouette 'hackers'... The desperation to sell ad space at the same time governments across the country are taking to their economies with a baseball bat etc.

Try not to take it too seriously, we sure don't. The laws against encryption to which you refer? :lol:
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I guess that's the law but I'm not familiar with the Australian laws, so the correct answer to your question is I don't know. Seems like it. Randomly clicked a few links and found only boring explanations, couldn't spot the text of the law. I've read the FAQ and all the concerns there seems justified to me, and the explanations doesn't settle down any concern. Some seems simply fallacious by assuming the "good" guys will always be "good" and the "bad" guys will never disobey the law, so yes, I have my doubts, but those would be unrelated with this covid topic, so I won't detail those doubts of mine here.

Also, I never seen the text of the law, so I might be completely off with my speculative reasoning.

Not from Australia and none of my concern about the internal laws there, or about the story with the kid. I posted the story here only because I found it genuinely funny, and laughed at it. It was like a headline "Man walking naked on the streets realizes kid uploaded youtube video with his naked butt". Hilarious, but that's exactly how it was. IDK, maybe next time put some cloth on? Just saying. :lol:

Anyways, since your question ended in a smiley, now I'm puzzled. Am I misinformed about Australian encryption laws, and the smiley was trying to kindly correct that? Is it allowed or not in Australia to use, for example, encrypted email between two citizens (I mean end to end email encryption, not https encryption to a cloud email service, like e.g. gmail)?
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RoGeorge wrote:

Anyways, since your question ended in a smiley, now I'm puzzled. Am I misinformed about Australian encryption laws, and the smiley was trying to kindly correct that? Is it allowed or not in Australia to use, for example, encrypted email between two citizens (I mean end to end email encryption, not https encryption to a cloud email service, like e.g. gmail)?

Of course encrypted e2e email is allowed, that was my point. We're not China, Russia or Turkey. Yet. So, whilst wrong-headed and terrible, the 2018 laws are also pretty much useless.

Those laws were essentially a legislative attempt to force providers (google, facebook, apple, ms, whatsap...) to offer a means to decrypt encrypted user content, hardly new or novel. There are lots of practical considerations that make them unworkable. All governments seem to have some sort of similar agenda, though, when it comes to the 'predictive policing' of their populations into the future.
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