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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 5:08 pm    Post subject: Dune Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sweet.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I actually loved Lynch's Dune even though a lot was of course missing from the books. Very interested to see this one though, especially when considering there will be two parts.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am really looking forward to this!
The syfy channel adaptation was really good as well.

I just hope it is successful (commercially not just for us dune fans) because then the is DM and CoD and hopefully they have the guts todo GEoD
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I am really looking forward to this!
The syfy channel adaptation was really good as well.

I just hope it is successful (commercially not just for us dune fans) because then the is DM and CoD and hopefully they have the guts todo GEoD

There is no way they will go past DM. I would be shocked if they even do that one. Dune is a good story mixed with interesting ideas. The rest of the books are just interesting ideas. How far did the syfy version go?

Note that they are going to make Dune into two movies.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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In an intriguing change to the source material, Villeneuve has also updated Dr. Liet Kynes, the leading ecologist on Arrakis and an independent power broker amid the various warring factions. Although always depicted as a white man, the character is now played by Sharon Duncan-Brewster (Rogue One), a black woman. “What Denis had stated to me was there was a lack of female characters in his cast, and he had always been very feminist, pro-women, and wanted to write the role for a woman,” Duncan-Brewster says. “This human being manages to basically keep the peace amongst many people. Women are very good at that, so why can’t Kynes be a woman? Why shouldn’t Kynes be a woman?”

Taking a cue from Disney and Star Wars.

Isn't it sexist to say women are peacemakers?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Naib wrote:

The syfy channel adaptation was really good as well.


I've never read the books, didn't really know anything about Dune, but I did see the syfy movie and liked it. However, there was one green screen shot that made me laugh out loud and almost ruined the whole thing. I think it was some characters running from a worm. It was a horrible shot of them pretending to run. You ever see someone pretending to run in place? It looked EXACTLY like that and it was made exponentially more comical by wearing some ridiculous costumes, compounded with the fact that the shot was only two or three seconds and could have been easily cut with no repercussions.

Yes, it was that bad of a shot and I loved every single shlocky two or three seconds of it.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I refuse to watch it, because every rendition on the screen has been disappointing. Nothing lives up to the book and my own imagination.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I refuse to watch it, because every rendition on the screen has been disappointing. Nothing lives up to the book and my own imagination.

Yeah, well the code everyone writes never lives up to everyone's imagination of perfection, but it doesn't stop us from trying.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

richk449 wrote:
Naib wrote:
I am really looking forward to this!
The syfy channel adaptation was really good as well.

I just hope it is successful (commercially not just for us dune fans) because then the is DM and CoD and hopefully they have the guts todo GEoD

There is no way they will go past DM. I would be shocked if they even do that one. Dune is a good story mixed with interesting ideas. The rest of the books are just interesting ideas. How far did the syfy version go?

Note that they are going to make Dune into two movies.

SyFy went as far as CoD. Leto2 getting covered in sandtrout's. What SyFy did was two sets of miniseries with DM spread across D and CoD.

I agree interesting ideas beyond the political games layed out in the 1st couple of books but none the less would be interesting to adapt. CHoD is very nice but to get there you have to go via GEoD and that would be funny as fuck
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They should instead have made films of the prequels.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm pumped.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 3:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9xhJrPXop4
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 3:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't like what they did to Pink Floyd, but otherwise it looks good. The actor playing Paul seems to fit my impression of the character from the very little I've actually read. I'd recently been thinking about trying to get through it again.

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I was curious if the movie was only going to be based on the first book, or if I needed to read more before seeing it. I think two movies for book one, but not certain.

That said, it is funny how people might criticize an adaptation for not living up to the book and how some might claim to be motivated by creating an accurate representation of the book.

"I'm going back to the book, and going to the images that came out when I read it" when he was a teenager.[35] Villeneuve said of when he had first seen Lynch's adaption that "there are parts that I love and other elements that I am less comfortable with. So it's like, I remember being half-satisfied", and that there was "still a movie that needs to be made about that book, just a different sensibility."

In adapting the book written in the 1960s for the 21st century, Villeneuve wanted to reflect on realities that have happened related to overexploitation of the Earth, and considered his screenplay "a coming-of-age story, but also a call for action for the youth".[25] Other changes included altering some of the arcs of the female characters in the book.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dune_(2020_film)#Soundtrack
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The movies have ruined it for me. I had a completely different visualization of everything, and the thought-whispers don't land themselves to film well.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nerds

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Nerds

Plural.

Reading this stuff as children, while you were watching blurry Bollywood crap movies of men slapping each other, is why we will continue to rule the planet throughout your lifetime and you will not.
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The only thing I see consistent proof of is this nerdery has affected your brain so much that you can't tell the difference between reality and fiction.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I don't like what they did to Pink Floyd, but otherwise it looks good. The actor playing Paul seems to fit my impression of the character from the very little I've actually read. I'd recently been thinking about trying to get through it again.

EDIT:
I was curious if the movie was only going to be based on the first book, or if I needed to read more before seeing it. I think two movies for book one, but not certain.

That said, it is funny how people might criticize an adaptation for not living up to the book and how some might claim to be motivated by creating an accurate representation of the book.

"I'm going back to the book, and going to the images that came out when I read it" when he was a teenager.[35] Villeneuve said of when he had first seen Lynch's adaption that "there are parts that I love and other elements that I am less comfortable with. So it's like, I remember being half-satisfied", and that there was "still a movie that needs to be made about that book, just a different sensibility."

In adapting the book written in the 1960s for the 21st century, Villeneuve wanted to reflect on realities that have happened related to overexploitation of the Earth, and considered his screenplay "a coming-of-age story, but also a call for action for the youth".[25] Other changes included altering some of the arcs of the female characters in the book.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dune_(2020_film)#Soundtrack


The cover of pink Floyd is disturbing, only as a pink Floyd fan - it's prob good for those who didn't grow up with them spinning out to their tunes in the background.

As to the trailer, I am looking forward to this but we will need to see how naive to the politics Paul comes across and how they capture the real story of plots within plots - the worm did look good
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The only thing I see consistent proof of is this nerdery has affected your brain so much that you can't tell the difference between reality and fiction.
Kinda like you with your revisionist personal theories concerning Hillary Clinton's electability. :wink:
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As to the trailer, I am looking forward to this but we will need to see how naive to the politics Paul comes across and how they capture the real story of plots within plots - the worm did look good
Accurately portraying the many plots was mentioned, and at least in part was why there was motivation to not try capturing it in a single movie. So at least the intent is there. Not knowing what specific "21st century issues" exist in the book, I only hope it isn't Disneyified. As long as it is true to the story, I'm generally fine with minor compromises necessary to adapt a story to film
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As to the trailer, I am looking forward to this but we will need to see how naive to the politics Paul comes across and how they capture the real story of plots within plots - the worm did look good
Accurately portraying the many plots was mentioned, and at least in part was why there was motivation to not try capturing it in a single movie. So at least the intent is there. Not knowing what specific "21st century issues" exist in the book, I only hope it isn't Disneyified. As long as it is true to the story, I'm generally fine with minor compromises necessary to adapt a story to film
It has already been Disneyfied. Liet Kynes, a male in the book, is now a female.
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If you liked Wheel of Time, don't read about what they've done to it.
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How bad is it ?

Edit I've just done a bit of preliminary investigation and I've found a Sanderson quote "unified cultural identity".

Dear God.
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Alexander Hamilton was White.
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