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Who will be the democrat party's nominee?
Bernie
22%
 22%  [ 7 ]
Biden
29%
 29%  [ 9 ]
Fauxcahontas
3%
 3%  [ 1 ]
Buttigieg
6%
 6%  [ 2 ]
Klobuchar
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Tulsi
6%
 6%  [ 2 ]
Yang
3%
 3%  [ 1 ]
Bloomberg
12%
 12%  [ 4 ]
Hillary
12%
 12%  [ 4 ]
Kerry
3%
 3%  [ 1 ]
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yup, disenfranchised, they said.

Wow, a lawsuit? We should stick to in-person voting, which has never been subject to a lawsuit, right?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yup, disenfranchised, they said.

Wow, a lawsuit? We should stick to in-person voting, which has never been subject to a lawsuit, right?


Nice of you to throw the voting rights of more than 84,000 New York Democrat voters under the bus.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yup, disenfranchised, they said.

Wow, a lawsuit? We should stick to in-person voting, which has never been subject to a lawsuit, right?


Nice of you to throw the voting rights of more than 84,000 New York Democrat voters under the bus.

I'm trying to visualize how you throw "voting rights" under a bus. Seems a bit of an abstract metaphor.

It's terrible that they had problems. They should fix it. Those are about the only conclusions anyone should draw from that anecdote.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A 3 percent votes disqualified is a margin what happens in elections. Think of the many parkinson voters eventually making their cross multiple times.

84t of how many votes were disqualified?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 4:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/conservatism-is-a-collection-of-losers-it-doesnt-have-to-be/
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I am not the first person to point out that conservative political coalitions are mostly just collections of losers, but the point nevertheless bears repeating. Today’s conservatism is merely the name used to categorize the rejects of the post–Cold War order: this includes a few oddball financiers who can’t play nicely with others, extractive industries and other declining sectors, the small businesses most reliant on low-wage, low-skill labor, and a group often referred to as social conservatives who have been almost totally marginalized from mainstream culture. At bottom, nothing holds this gang of misfits together except exclusion from the dominant group of big tech oligarchs, more respectable financial rent seekers, and the leading cultural tastemakers in media and academia.

The conservative favorite Lord Acton famously quipped that power corrupts, but as the self-described Marxist Slavoj Žižek is fond of pointing out, powerlessness corrupts, too. One effect of conservatives’ waning economic and social power has been a retreat into their own self-referential identity groups and subcultures—bizarre little cults ranging from Straussians to Burkeans to the various branches of “Austrian economics.” Conservatives applaud themselves for this apparent devotion to “ideas,” but it’s actually just an effect—and a cause—of their irrelevance with respect to matters of practical importance and almost total intellectual incoherence. Despite this obsession with theoretical inquiry, however, conservatives have been nearly banished from the academy, prestige media, and cultural institutions. The leading “conservative thinkers” of the last 20 years have influenced hardly anyone beyond the next generation of downwardly mobile graduate students.

As Gladden Pappin, deputy editor of American Affairs, has argued, contemporary conservatism is an attempt to articulate the role of non-state institutions rather than a serious approach to wielding political power. The result is an abundance of platitudinous books on Tocqueville and treacly essays on civility, but little serious study of how today’s economy actually works or how to coordinate diverse interests across complex institutions. Thus, even when conservatives happen to win office, typically all that they can imagine doing is reducing their own capacity to exercise power. Conservative foundations and donors have plowed millions into producing mind-numbing Adam Smith documentaries—last year, they even created a virtual pin factory, along with an absurdist farce featuring the Dalai Lama—but they have shown little interest in, say, planning for economic and technological competition with China or understanding the effects of financialization. In part, this may be owing to the fact that conservatism has become nothing more than an ideological gloss retrospectively applied to the machinations of lobbyists and grifters. Yet on a deeper level it seems that the conservative corpus is simply no longer capable of anything but reflexive spasms.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 5:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That could be written about the left with only minor changes. Less surprisingly is that the author seems to have a chronic case of TDS.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That could be written about the left with only minor changes. Less surprisingly is that the author seems to have a chronic case of TDS.

Excellent. The guy who founded the pro-Trump publications Journal of American Greatness and American Affairs has TDS.

At this point, does the term have any meaning at all, except as a way to avoid dealing with arguments you don't like?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The quoted parts seemed very superficial. As much an ageism complaint as anything meaningful about conservatism / conservatives. Had there been more thought put into it, I probably wouldn't have given it a second thought and moved along.

Due to it being a pretty weak opinion piece, I was curious about the background of the author. Based on the domain, of which I recall no prior experience, I thought it was a "guest" author writing from an "opposing opinion" angle.

So I looked up his name. It seems a somewhat unique name, so I presumed results were for the same person. Yes, he had been a Trump supporter (of some degree) and is claimed to be a conservative. Uh, sure. I didn't look into any of his other writings to discover what he thinks conservatism is, but a cursory search reveals the TDS. There was even a crumb left for the observant reader toward the end of the essay.

It's fine if the author has criticism of conservatism. It is OK to not be one. But trying to redefine it into something that isn't conservative is a different matter and a different ism.

The Republican party is comprised of members who aren't particularly conservative, and haven't been for a long time. I consider the Gingrich era to have been the last gasp of conservatism. Since then the Republican party has been mostly without direction, which probably explains why they're not cohesive and are ineffective against the Democrat coalition.

My guess is that within 10 years, there will be fewer states voting Republican, and I do not believe either Florida or Texas to be among them. I hope I'm wrong, and I'm very disappointed to see it, but the trend seems to be for "free" stuff redistribution, a lack of personal responsibility, and a lack of work ethic / ambition.

I apologize for subjecting you to an independent thought and happening to think the authors opinion was poorly stated.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is untrue that Trump funded Kamala Harris campaign as Attorney General with twice the money he gave Arnold Schwarzenegger for his campaign as governor. It is half of the GOP funding. But surely at the time he supported the "smart on crime" agenda - what Trump tries with his justice reform effort of today.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2020 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ulenrich wrote:
It is untrue that Trump funded Kamala Harris campaign as Attorney General with twice the money he gave Arnold Schwarzenegger for his campaign as governor. It is half of the GOP funding. But surely at the time he supported the "smart on crime" agenda - what Trump tries with his justice reform effort of today.

Trump has a long history of donation to a lot of Democrat and Republican politicians both. It's one of the reasons the Republican mainstream didn't like him. It's also one of the reasons I say he's been the best Democrat president we've had in a long time. Among other things, he supports labor, trade protectionism, infrastructure spending, and other typically Democrat platform elements. Orange man has a lot of blue in him as well as red.

Raging lunatic Marxists and Black racists don't want people to know this, but it's true.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having Kamala on the ticket hurts Biden more.

We've already established America doesn't like bossy women.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Having Kamala on the ticket hurts Biden more.

We've already established America doesn't like bossy women.
Untrue.
If you look at the Netflix series with bossy women - they are successful. Of course the bossy man series "Tiger King" also had record views. Last but not least there were more votes for the bossy woman in the 2016 presidential election than for whiny Trump.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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New Zealand: Jacinda Ardern delays election over coronavirus fears
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 4:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFr2tFLZom4
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 4:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And that's why you don't want women head of governments. Irrational woman overreacting.

Another negative for Biden/Kamala ticket.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And that's why you don't want women head of governments. Irrational woman overreacting.

Another negative for Biden/Kamala ticket.
Could you please asses the full list of females
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ulenrich wrote:
notageek wrote:
Having Kamala on the ticket hurts Biden more.

We've already established America doesn't like bossy women.
Untrue.
If you look at the Netflix series with bossy women - they are successful. Of course the bossy man series "Tiger King" also had record views. Last but not least there were more votes for the bossy woman in the 2016 presidential election than for whiny Trump.

It's only the votes that count that count.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 12:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fox News confirms:
Luckily the U.S. now has one candidate who can read from a teleprompter
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 12:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Democrats rampantly cheating and suppressing voters in their own inconsequential primaries! November election doomed by the the let's complete lack of morals and ethics. Cheating, lying, corrupt Democrats incompatible with Democracy!
https://www.npr.org/2020/08/22/904693468/more-than-550-000-primary-absentee-ballots-rejected-in-2020-far-outpacing-2016
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 12:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most of y'all are too young to know of Joe Biden's past, but he has a long history of lying about his past and downright plagiarism. He was an intellectual dwarf years ago. Now he is just an old intellectual dwarf with alzhteimer's.

Lies
Plagiarism.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Old School wrote:
Lies

Holy shit. He's a compulsive liar! I had never seen that before.

The man is a sociopath!
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Plagiarism.

I remember reading that he got in trouble for plagiarism at college (although they apparently let him off), but I didn't know about this one.

This confirms it. The man is a sociopath, and a not very bright one. Everybody should watch these.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's the BBC doing schilling for Trump?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53858940

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During the same press conference, Mr Trump went on to say "I'm not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists, because they should be condemned totally."
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What's the BBC doing schilling for Trump?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53858940

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During the same press conference, Mr Trump went on to say "I'm not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists, because they should be condemned totally."
Its how the BBC shows they are impartial, they will bias almost everything (significant coverage or trashing) and then they will chuck in a token "other side" editorial
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Naib wrote:
flysideways wrote:
What's the BBC doing schilling for Trump?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53858940

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During the same press conference, Mr Trump went on to say "I'm not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists, because they should be condemned totally."
Its how the BBC shows they are impartial, they will bias almost everything (significant coverage or trashing) and then they will chuck in a token "other side" editorial

This is the first of a pair of shoes. The other shoe will contain 24 significant, impactful things Trump says in his next speech the left doesn't like and will call them all "false" under the guise of fact-checking. The article will probably even contain a link to this one to create the impression of impartiality.

Furthermore, look closely at their fact-checking: they basically said Biden was right about all three things people questioned. They're not schilling for Trump. It's just like when the interviewer asks you what your biggest weakness is and you say sometimes you work too hard and aren't willing to accept 80% solutions.
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