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Which Desktop Environment do you use ?
GNOME + OpenRC
3%
 3%  [ 6 ]
GNOME + Systemd
6%
 6%  [ 12 ]
KDE + OpenRC
35%
 35%  [ 61 ]
KDE + Systemd
6%
 6%  [ 11 ]
Xfce (OpenRC or Systemd)
13%
 13%  [ 24 ]
MATE (OpenRC or Systemd)
3%
 3%  [ 6 ]
LxQT (OpenRC or Systemd)
2%
 2%  [ 5 ]
LXDE (OpenRC or Systemd)
2%
 2%  [ 5 ]
Other Desktop Environment (Comment the topic)
2%
 2%  [ 5 ]
I use a Window Manager (Comment the topic)
22%
 22%  [ 39 ]
Total Votes : 174

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 5:02 pm    Post subject: 2020 Poll - Which Desktop Environment uses Gentoo users ? Reply with quote

Hello,

Since Gentoo + GNOME without OpenRC is available, i would like if there are a lot of people which uses GNOME on OpenRC.

I start this poll to know about Usages of Desktop Environment on Gentoo !

Thanks for all !
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I prefer using the i3 window manager, but I also like the KDE Plasma desktop environment.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use bspwm. I would never use Gentoo with KDE or GNOME, Firefox + LO is more than enough for me.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

etnull wrote:
I would never use Gentoo with KDE

That's fine, as long as you don't pretend to 'know' how 'big' it is to build. ;)
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Using XFCE with OpenRC for the most part. But out of curiosity i've just set up Gnome with systemd on a testing computer and i am mostly surprised about evolution. The handling of Caldav / Carddav and Email is really good and something i am missing on XFCE.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KDE with OpenRC.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

While I use xfce4+openrc I barely feel like I'm using it as a DE. Only xfce4 packages I have installed is xfwm4+terminal+panel+embed-plugin+dependencies (no thunar, no sessions, not even xfdesktop since I don't use desktop icons and just use feh to set the background).

I do like that xfce4 let me get rid of bigger unwanted components while it'd be a headache with many other DEs. I may move away from xfce4 and go for a more independent window manager eventually, but can't be bothered to change a few things right now :)
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did use gentoo with kde... never again. It added loads and loads of packages I never really used. Recently switched to i3-gaps and I'm quite liking it.

Still some things to do, though. Like considering whether polybar is a good idea or not (i3status does its job) and installing rofi.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

xahodo wrote:
I did use gentoo with kde... never again. It added loads and loads of packages I never really used.

Whenever I read something like that, I'm wondering if they actually really use Gentoo how it is supposed to be. It is like complaining about the huge size of a supermarket, even though you can have your stuff hand-picked and delivered at the reception.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

openbox, picom, tint2, xbindkeys, rofi. Gives me 90% of a DE at 5% the weight.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OpenRC, sddm, and icewm. Starting to think about wayland, can someone comment about a lightweight compositor, somewhat icewm-like?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Being an old fart, I like twm but its not in your list. :)
I use Mate and Xfce4 too.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Windowmaker. Ultra-responsive, ultra-reliable, ridiculously easy to configure the way I want it and uses next to nothing by way of system resources whilst remaining aesthetically pleasing.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dwm, there's nothing better :D
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

icewm
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use i3-gaps. Used to use KDE + openRC, but it was too slow on my laptop.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

KDE + Openrc

though KDE I essentially use as a window manager, not much beyond few workspaces and panel with few widgets below. Don't use icons on desktop surface,
any pim packages.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

xahodo wrote:
I did use gentoo with kde... never again. It added loads and loads of packages I never really used.
...

I suspect many people form the same opinion after installing all the KDE meta packages to build everything. But you don't have to; unlike most binary distributions, Gentoo lets you be more specific. Here's the complete list of KDE packages in my laptop's world file:
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kde-apps/ark
kde-apps/kaddressbook
kde-apps/kcalc
kde-apps/kcharselect
kde-apps/kdebase-meta
kde-apps/kdepim-addons
kde-apps/kgpg
kde-apps/khelpcenter
kde-apps/kleopatra
kde-apps/kmail
kde-apps/kmix
kde-apps/kontact
kde-apps/korganizer
kde-apps/kwalletmanager
kde-apps/kwalletmanager:5
kde-apps/okular
kde-misc/kdiff3
kde-misc/kdirstat
kde-plasma/kdeplasma-addons
kde-plasma/plasma-meta
kde-plasma/powerdevil

My chosen extra meta packages add several items, but the total is still far smaller than a default setup with all of the meta packages.

Of course, you can still justifiably complain that the split into Qt, kde-frameworks, plasma and apps has just added layers for no apparent benefit. Maybe it's time for a KDE6 built straight on top of Qt :-)
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Multiple select not possible:
OpenRC + {Gnome, LXDE+Openbox, Sway}
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Xfce, as usual. With OpenRC of course :wink:
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bspwm for me, KDE is nice, but I tend to overwhelm myself with options when playing with that DE.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mate with openrc
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

etnull wrote:
I use bspwm. I would never use Gentoo with KDE or GNOME, Firefox + LO is more than enough for me.


Funnily enough, www-client/firefox takes about as long, if not longer, for me to compile than my entire KDE stack (which, to be fair, is a relatively minimal KDE installation). Basically just kde-plasma/plasma-meta with a handful of KDE apps. Firefox is typically 1.5-2.5 hours depending on what else I have going on, but KDE will typically be done in less than two hours.

That's 1 package vs. ~124 packages for KDE.'course, the reason Firefox takes as long as it does is due to enabling the pgo USE flag. I probably should just use firefox-bin, but oh well.
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superjaded wrote:
That's 1 package vs. ~124 packages for KDE.'course, the reason Firefox takes as long as it does is due to enabling the pgo USE flag. I probably should just use firefox-bin, but oh well.
Yeah, firefox-bin use clang+lto+pgo, building without pgo is almost silly since you'll have a firefox that runs worse than the official binary (a -march=native/-Ctarget-cpu=native isn't going to remotely compare to pgo with a decent profile), unless your reasons for building is just alsa/jack support, patches, and/or using system libraries. Personally I do patch firefox for things I don't like and use jack as well...
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