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Which Desktop Environment do you use ?
GNOME + OpenRC
3%
 3%  [ 6 ]
GNOME + Systemd
6%
 6%  [ 12 ]
KDE + OpenRC
35%
 35%  [ 61 ]
KDE + Systemd
6%
 6%  [ 11 ]
Xfce (OpenRC or Systemd)
13%
 13%  [ 24 ]
MATE (OpenRC or Systemd)
3%
 3%  [ 6 ]
LxQT (OpenRC or Systemd)
2%
 2%  [ 5 ]
LXDE (OpenRC or Systemd)
2%
 2%  [ 5 ]
Other Desktop Environment (Comment the topic)
2%
 2%  [ 5 ]
I use a Window Manager (Comment the topic)
22%
 22%  [ 39 ]
Total Votes : 174

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

awesomewm with startx
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adrien.D wrote:
Since Gentoo + GNOME without OpenRC is available, i would like if there are a lot of people which uses GNOME on OpenRC.
It looks like very few people use GNOME period. I am surprised by the large number using kde, however.

Perhaps more accurate numbers could be inferred by counting downloads from Gentoo mirrors.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i3
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ionen wrote:
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That's 1 package vs. ~124 packages for KDE.'course, the reason Firefox takes as long as it does is due to enabling the pgo USE flag. I probably should just use firefox-bin, but oh well.
Yeah, firefox-bin use clang+lto+pgo, building without pgo is almost silly since you'll have a firefox that runs worse than the official binary (a -march=native/-Ctarget-cpu=native isn't going to remotely compare to pgo with a decent profile), unless your reasons for building is just alsa/jack support, patches, and/or using system libraries. Personally I do patch firefox for things I don't like and use jack as well...


No, I don't have any particular esoteric needs that really requires me to build from source. But why am I still using it? Probably an example of the sunk cost fallacy. Spent so much time getting www-client/firefox built, I'm beyond the point of no return. But it's true, there's not really a very noticeable difference between firefox-bin and the one I built from source.

Though one thing that kind of irks me about switching between firefox-bin and firefox from source is that the profiles don't seem to be compatible with each other, even if they're made from the same Firefox version.It's a little tedious to get Firefox set up the way I want it, so the idea of having to start a new profile for firefox-bin, meh.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The difference for me between firefox-bin and firefox is that spellchecker dictionaries have been broken in firefox-bin for over a year, and in general the distro maintainers seem to care more about actual users than upstream does when it comes to antifeatures. I don't care about a missing 2% in synthetic JS benchmarks when I block javascript by default.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mate + openrc, run with startx since I prefer logging directly into a terminal.

and while we're at it, wayland won't work for me since I use remote X too...
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2020 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No desktop for me, i use just bspwm, after trying tilling windows i cant use desktop again. I also use runit as init and this session manager https://loh-tar.github.io/tbsm/ soi can use both x and wayland (also have sway installed) im waiting for bspwc to be complete ths one
https://git.sr.ht/~bl4ckb0ne/bspwc
i also have ossv4 as sound system in another Gentoo install im trying to make sndio work with ossv4.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As its Gentoo package maintainer I'm quite happy to see a couple of icewm users here :)
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 12:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

awesomewm + openrc.

I had used openbox for ... 10+ years but early 2019 I wanted a change
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 1:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use KDE4 + openrc-0.17 + startx
Almost all kde-apps still work with plasma 4.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Xfce with openrc
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Herbstluftwm + sxhkd (keybind manager) and dmenu for launching application.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polynomial-C wrote:
As its Gentoo package maintainer I'm quite happy to see a couple of icewm users here :)

I used IceWM for quite a while until recently.

Then I got bored of fixing /usr/bin/Xorg ownerships and /sbin/shutdown permissions on every update, logging in through console and typing startx (yes, .bashrc, launch startx on login...) and manually mounting my USB drive partitions, so I switched to LXQt + SDDM (logind).
I love it, it's like KDE but pre-alpha! :lol:
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use Gnome and i3 and Fluxbox. Gnome for Computers with "normal People Access".
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Muso wrote:
i3


i3-gaps (it's better) w/OpenRC
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2020 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use Weston.

Small, decent, doesn't crash...
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2020 2:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been using LXDE on OpenRC and it's been my desktop for 8-9 years. Before that, I also had XFCE installed, but found that I never used it. I still have a couple of PCs with just XFCE because I can't be bothered to change them because they are seldom used.

I very much like the snail-pace development speed of LXDE and the small footprint and lack of intrusive behavior.

If LXDE becomes unsupportable, I'll go back to XFCE. I can't imagine ever going back to KDE or Gnome and I'm very surprised at the poll results favoring KDE. I'm not surprised at all by the comments from the minimalists. I'd be there too, but LXDE has found the sweet spot for me.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dwm, the most quick, lightweight, minimal, responsive I have found!
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sway.
I've been trying to incorporate some KDE stuff with it, but KDE really isn't ready for wayland just yet. :(
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use fluxbox (it have everything i need, and more).
$ equery size x11-wm/fluxbox
Code:
 * x11-wm/fluxbox-1.3.7-r4
Total files : 339
Total size  : 3.78 MiB

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Code:
~ $ equery size dwm
 * x11-wm/dwm-6.2
         Total files : 20
         Total size  : 283.06 KiB
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hariskar wrote:
Code:
~ $ equery size dwm
 * x11-wm/dwm-6.2
         Total files : 20
         Total size  : 283.06 KiB

For many times, i wanted to change to dwm. But the fluxbox is so good, that i don't.
The fluxbox have all that i need (with several possible configurations).
I don't have any other windows manager installed because of this.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use AwesomeWM + startx on Gentoo
and KDE on OpenSuSe
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I initially installed Gentoo with GNOME because that's what I've used in another distro (2 decades ago and for a short while only, never been a linux user) and with OpenRC (because it's the default init of Gentoo). When I found out that GNOME (without systemd) was possible only because several systemd tools were used for compatibility I searched for an alternative that would be "more compatible" with Gentoo's openrc, without any intermediary stuff. Many of the DEs required the use of such ported tools from systemd but I narrowed my search to: KDE with Openrc, Lumina and Xfce. I decided for Xfce. My decision was based mostly on the following:

1) Xfce is supposedly, mostly or entirelly written in C, as compared with GNOME that relies on C, C++, Vala, Python, JavaScript (according to this). I think that maintenance is easier the less programing languages are involved and future development would be more guaranteed.
2) As far as I know, Xfce hard depends on consolekit, thus letting me avoid using systemd's borrowed tools (some or all, I don't know yet).

KDE has the option to be used with consolekit but I do not know if in the future KDE developers would drop such support. As far as I know, Xfce is developed without systemd in mind, much as GNOME is for systemd. As I want to get away from systemd and closer to Gentoo defaults, consolekit is the way to go, even if it hasn't been developed since '17. I didn't decided for Lumina because I think the user base is so low that finding technical help would be less probable than with the other two options. Although I do find attractive that Lumina does not need neither *kit nor systemd.

I am planning to uninstall everything (except @system of course), selecting the base desktop profile, --deplean the system, and then install Xfce and other goodies tomorrow (april 13th). Wish me luck!

P.S. I've using Gentoo (and linux for that matter) for 3 weeks now so please correct me kindly if some of my impressions are wrong :D
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 1:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

neyuru wrote:
P.S. I've using Gentoo (and linux for that matter) for 3 weeks now so please correct me kindly if some of my impressions are wrong :D

I don't know about your reasoning, but I think your conclusion is sound. Good luck. Enjoy.
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