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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, India is a communist country, so I'm not sure what your objection is.
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Indeed. What commerce do military personnel bring to the area?

It's huge. A military base is mostly civilian workers. A training site such as Graf is practically all civilians. And most of what those civians do is pay locals for goods and services. They in turn spend all that money in the local economy, repeatedly, vastly multiplying the effect.

Conversely, spending US taxpayer dollars overseas is a drain on the US economy for the same reasons. The US has spent vast Brobdignagian sums to build Germany back up. Its time to wean them from the tit.
So, pretty much similar to having thousands of H1Bs over in US, right?


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notageek wrote:
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Indeed. What commerce do military personnel bring to the area?

It's huge. A military base is mostly civilian workers. A training site such as Graf is practically all civilians. And most of what those civians do is pay locals for goods and services. They in turn spend all that money in the local economy, repeatedly, vastly multiplying the effect.

Conversely, spending US taxpayer dollars overseas is a drain on the US economy for the same reasons. The US has spent vast Brobdignagian sums to build Germany back up. Its time to wean them from the tit.
So, pretty much similar to having thousands of H1Bs over in US, right?


One of your worst fails.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is actually pretty good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIGEO1Onypc

I don't normally watch Fox News, never mind promulgating it, but this commentary on the DNC convention by Tucker Carlson is worthy if you get past the first minute or so of invective. It's had over three million views on youtube alone.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bones McCracker wrote:
This is actually pretty good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIGEO1Onypc

I don't normally watch Fox News, never mind promulgating it, but this commentary on the DNC convention by Tucker Carlson is worthy if you get past the first minute or so of invective. It's had over three million views on youtube alone.
Tucker says at the end: "crazy, governmental health insurance for non nationals"
... I'll wait for the next pandemic being 100 times more deadly - what he says then if he is still alive.

It is a normality a modern country doesn't let die strangers on the streets
but in the U.S. that would be communism.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It is a normality a modern country doesn't let die strangers on the streets
but in the U.S. that would be communism.

We really need a facpalm emoticon.

Once again you show your lack of knowledge where it comes to the US. Strangers are not turned away from hospitals. Why the fuck else do pregnant women cross the southern border to have their spawn in the US. Nobody can be turned away.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 12:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It is a normality a modern country doesn't let die strangers on the streets
but in the U.S. that would be communism.

We really need a facpalm emoticon.

Once again you show your lack of knowledge where it comes to the US. Strangers are not turned away from hospitals. Why the fuck else do pregnant women cross the southern border to have their spawn in the US. Nobody can be turned away.
I never was in the U.S. I don't know.
But why does Tucker tell this ?
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ulenrich wrote:
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It is a normality a modern country doesn't let die strangers on the streets
but in the U.S. that would be communism.

We really need a facpalm emoticon.

Once again you show your lack of knowledge where it comes to the US. Strangers are not turned away from hospitals. Why the fuck else do pregnant women cross the southern border to have their spawn in the US. Nobody can be turned away.
I never was in the U.S. I don't know.
But why does Tucker tell this ?
He is talking about tax payer money paying for the doctor care for people who are in the country illegally.
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It is a normality a modern country doesn't let die strangers on the streets
but in the U.S. that would be communism.

We really need a facpalm emoticon.

Once again you show your lack of knowledge where it comes to the US. Strangers are not turned away from hospitals. Why the fuck else do pregnant women cross the southern border to have their spawn in the US. Nobody can be turned away.
I never was in the U.S. I don't know.
But why does Tucker tell this ?

You don't know, and yet you flap your lips as though you had a worthy opinion people should attend. You are a victim of false propaganda, and you're the worst kind of victim: the one who further spreads the misinformation because they don't even know they are ignorant.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 3:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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This is actually pretty good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIGEO1Onypc

I don't normally watch Fox News, never mind promulgating it, but this commentary on the DNC convention by Tucker Carlson is worthy if you get past the first minute or so of invective. It's had over three million views on youtube alone.

That's pure propaganda. You go for that?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 3:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Bones McCracker wrote:
This is actually pretty good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIGEO1Onypc

I don't normally watch Fox News, never mind promulgating it, but this commentary on the DNC convention by Tucker Carlson is worthy if you get past the first minute or so of invective. It's had over three million views on youtube alone.

That's pure propaganda. You go for that?

Depends on how you define "go".
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bones McCracker wrote:
richk449 wrote:
Bones McCracker wrote:
This is actually pretty good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIGEO1Onypc

I don't normally watch Fox News, never mind promulgating it, but this commentary on the DNC convention by Tucker Carlson is worthy if you get past the first minute or so of invective. It's had over three million views on youtube alone.

That's pure propaganda. You go for that?

Depends on how you define "go".

The color scheme framing is like on mashrooms.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Comey fires back against the Durham probe as an investigation for campaign talking only. While Durham is not questioning him, Comey instead is a speaker on the anti Trump Republican Convention on Founding Principles next week.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pfffttt.

Comey is a sanctimonious piece of schiff that mismanaged everything he touched. He has lied to Congress and is probably quite concerned about the Durham probe with good reason. Even the piece of fluff that was the Inspector General report stated Comey violated policy and allowed confidential memos to be leaked to the friendly press.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But that is only your opinion. The criminal record of convicted criminals is now about 10 : 0 ?
for government swamp Trump : Obama
And that record is to rise with Steve Bannon and with a Trump swamp you wanna give some more 4 years ....
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But that is only your opinion. The criminal record of convicted criminals is now about 10 : 0 ?
for government swamp Trump : Obama
And that record is to rise with Steve Bannon and with a Trump swamp you wanna give some more 4 years ....
That is not my opinion. Comey lied to Congress. That is fact. The IG report castigated Comey. That is fact.

Name one conviction related to Trump and Russian Collusion from anyone in the Trump campaign. Just one.

I can give you one name from the Obama Justice Department that has pleaded guilty to falsifying a CIA document so they could spy on the Trump campaign. His name is, Kevin Clinesmith.

You make this too easy. You are continually wrong. Trump Derangement Syndrome has addled your brain, where reality and your leftist commie wet dreams have become totally mixed.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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But that is only your opinion. The criminal record of convicted criminals is now about 10 : 0 ?

Once again you have no actual idea what you're talking about and are simply echoing the propaganda to which you have been subjected.

The Obama/Biden Administration, while still in power, and the Clinton Cabal, egregiously abused the entire intelligence and Federal law enforcement apparatus of the United States to wage a political war against Donald Trump.

Furthermore, the Obama/Biden Administration started, as early as 2009 as I recall, to purge the upper ranks of the U.S. military and the civilian branches of government of anyone they were able to detect was predisposed to disagree with Obama or who was not a card-carrying Democrat. The list is long. Very long. They actually spied on people to achieve this, and entrapped the senior-most where necessary (including war hero generals such as Petraeus and McChrystal, both of whom were seen as potential political adversaries to Democrats down the road). They replaced all these people with loyal Obama/Clinton sycophants or people who were at least incompetent and harmless.

This is the true "deep state" that survived the turnover of administrations who then secretly waged an insurgent war against Trump of malicious false prosecution, fake investigations based on falsehoods, legal harassment and a quagmire of lies. In the case of the intelligence and law enforcement community, the Obama loyalists who were left behind actually waged coordinated action for quite some time. They saw it as a "Resistance", like it was their patriotic duty, when in fact it was legitimately traitorous.

They have since nearly all been neutralized by the simple fact that had nothing but lies upon which to base any action. Many are now facing investigation or prosecution themselves as a result.

The saddest part, though, is that the Democrats have now established a solid precedent for such behavior. The Republicans will now no doubt similarly purge the radical left from government and build their own carefully hidden deep state to linger on like slowly growing colo-rectal polyps and later "resist" the Democrats. AND, perhaps most notably, when it does happen, when the FBI is investigating Joe Biden or Kama Harris or whatever, the Democrats will quite characteristically bitch and whine to high heaven like it's completely unprecedented and evil and who could ever think such a thing could happen. It will probably be truly awful, given the amount of ammo corrupt-ass Joe Biden has provided with his dirty dealings in Ukraine.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I know at least five talk radio hosts who tell this alike since 30y in the U.S. to their audience. This means at a time where Trump was more a Democrat than a Republican. So,

are these your ideas strictly Trump related, or would you like to open another thread to discuss?
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I think I know at least five talk radio hosts who tell this alike since 30y in the U.S. to their audience. This means at a time where Trump was more a Democrat than a Republican. So,

are these your ideas strictly Trump related, or would you like to open another thread to discuss?

You've heard me say many times that Trump is the best Democrat president the US has had in decades, and Obama the best Republican.

You have also heard me say that lately, the so-called Democrats in the US are Marxist more than Liberal, and the politicians just plain corrupt.

The second part of your post I could not understand.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't like to bury this discussion in a multi year long thread, and .. because it is more than Trump.
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I don't like to bury this discussion in a multi year long thread, and .. because it is more than Trump.

What's that got to do the price of frozen concentrated orange juice in Kuala Lumpur?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 12:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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But that is only your opinion. The criminal record of convicted criminals is now about 10 : 0 ?

Once again you have no actual idea what you're talking about and are simply echoing the propaganda to which you have been subjected.
You are influenced one sided since decades probably! I can look upon the U.S. from the outside. For your examples:

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The Obama/Biden Administration, while still in power, and the Clinton Cabal, egregiously abused the entire intelligence and Federal law enforcement apparatus of the United States to wage a political war against Donald Trump.

The agencies of the greatest country on earth cannot prevent a dumb person to become president ? ... If the coming elections are ending undecisively you will rather soonishly see how the president is able to steel an election!
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Furthermore, the Obama/Biden Administration started, as early as 2009 as I recall, to purge the upper ranks of the U.S. military and the civilian branches of government of anyone they were able to detect was predisposed to disagree with Obama or who was not a card-carrying Democrat. The list is long. Very long. They actually spied on people to achieve this, and entrapped the senior-most where necessary (including war hero generals such as Petraeus and McChrystal, both of whom were seen as potential political adversaries to Democrats down the road). They replaced all these people with loyal Obama/Clinton sycophants or people who were at least incompetent and harmless.
That point goes to you regarding the weakness of the Obama foreign affairs policy (noble peace price - arrrgh).
But this was not about party but policy:
Obama wanted to get out of the war zones quickly - too quickly. The just convinced sunni population in Iraq got frustrated and IS could flourish. But !!! But:
Perhaps totally unintended but in fact the concentration of islamists in their Califat state was the perfect precondition to win this world war against fascist islamism. Surely not with a plan - by chance of unintended circumstances. Imagine the kurds didn't fight!
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This is the true "deep state" that survived the turnover of administrations who then secretly waged an insurgent war against Trump of malicious false prosecution, fake investigations based on falsehoods, legal harassment and a quagmire of lies. In the case of the intelligence and law enforcement community, the Obama loyalists who were left behind actually waged coordinated action for quite some time. They saw it as a "Resistance", like it was their patriotic duty, when in fact it was legitimately traitorous.

Again three falsehoods: 1. The senate just published a bipartisan 1000 pages report about russian collusion with aspects the Mueller report didn't entail, because it wasn't criminal.
2. Mueller wasn't that kind. He is an old Republican leaning guy
3. Trump with short sighted tactics made all this cabal possible.
(the media was bad also, the intercept analized it)
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They have since nearly all been neutralized by the simple fact that had nothing but lies upon which to base any action. Many are now facing investigation or prosecution themselves as a result.

You really believe that, yes? After four years not one conviction. Good luck.
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The saddest part, though, is that the Democrats have now established a solid precedent for such behavior. The Republicans will now no doubt similarly purge the radical left from government and build their own carefully hidden deep state to linger on like slowly growing colo-rectal polyps and later "resist" the Democrats. AND, perhaps most notably, when it does happen, when the FBI is investigating Joe Biden or Kama Harris or whatever, the Democrats will quite characteristically bitch and whine to high heaven like it's completely unprecedented and evil and who could ever think such a thing could happen. It will probably be truly awful, given the amount of ammo corrupt-ass Joe Biden has provided with his dirty dealings in Ukraine.
The point you make is: The american presidency is like a kingdom and your democracy only can out live that with a change of the party clinging to power. Sad. In Germany we have more power to the states. They form what is your senate.
Joe Biden has done in the Ukraine what all of Europe had asked him to do. If you hear some soundbites of the telephone talk with Ukraine: This pretty much sounds like corrupt mafia. But it wasn't, it only was the sound of stutter in older age of the person.
There was never before a presidency in the U.S. that uncarefully had not hidden any wrong doing but now sends tweeds about it in open (Every president makes errors and walks on a line near illegality in war times). And incompetence: Trump needs four more years because much of his agenda often crashes in front of judges (he himself selected).

By the way, it sounds very childish when you talk about all Democrats as bad people. And the many never Trump Republicans are also part of that conspiracy you claim exists? And the once in Trump government also?
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Baahh... Didn't bother to read.
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Democrats after the RNC Convention acting like typical Dems.
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Bones McCracker wrote:
ulenrich wrote:
But that is only your opinion. The criminal record of convicted criminals is now about 10 : 0 ?

Once again you have no actual idea what you're talking about and are simply echoing the propaganda to which you have been subjected.
You are influenced one sided since decades probably! I can look upon the U.S. from the outside. For your examples:
through your own rose-tinted glasses

ulenrich wrote:

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The Obama/Biden Administration, while still in power, and the Clinton Cabal, egregiously abused the entire intelligence and Federal law enforcement apparatus of the United States to wage a political war against Donald Trump.

The agencies of the greatest country on earth cannot prevent a dumb person to become president ? ... If the coming elections are ending undecisively you will rather soonishly see how the president is able to steel an election!

They shouldn't have even tried. THAT is the point. The leader is elected by the people for the people NOT by some Oligarchy who think they know whats best for the people. There are colour revolutions going around the world and in the middle east under dictators it turned violent because the people in power did not want what the people wanted. In Europe and America it is people turning away from the mainstream because they are getting hacked off with people serving their own interests and the lies that have been perpetually span are being shown to be lies.

Look at the amount of underhand tactics used in the UK associated with Brexit to undermine the will of the people and likewise in America. It does not fucking matter what anyone else thinks outside of those nations, they can have an opinion sure but that's it. To advocate some overarching intervention by the powers that be because "they know best" is an insult to everyone that has died over the course of the last 200years to stop tyranny: American revolution, American civil war, Napoeonic wars, WW1, WW2... go read up about what these were fought.
The people have a right to vote, even if it is a mistake their choice must be honered.
A reset in western democracy and politics was needed (between cancel culture, the lies of the left , the cynicism etc...) Trump did that for USA, Brexit did that for the UK and rather than learning from this, the left and the establishment did everything possible to overturn it wasting soo much time, wasting soo much effort and actually causing a harsher push back at each step when democracy was challenged.

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Furthermore, the Obama/Biden Administration started, as early as 2009 as I recall, to purge the upper ranks of the U.S. military and the civilian branches of government of anyone they were able to detect was predisposed to disagree with Obama or who was not a card-carrying Democrat. The list is long. Very long. They actually spied on people to achieve this, and entrapped the senior-most where necessary (including war hero generals such as Petraeus and McChrystal, both of whom were seen as potential political adversaries to Democrats down the road). They replaced all these people with loyal Obama/Clinton sycophants or people who were at least incompetent and harmless.
That point goes to you regarding the weakness of the Obama foreign affairs policy (noble peace price - arrrgh).
But this was not about party but policy:
Obama wanted to get out of the war zones quickly - too quickly. The just convinced sunni population in Iraq got frustrated and IS could flourish. But !!! But:
Perhaps totally unintended but in fact the concentration of islamists in their Califat state was the perfect precondition to win this world war against fascist islamism. Surely not with a plan - by chance of unintended circumstances. Imagine the kurds didn't fight!

no he did not. He and H.Clinton have soo much blood on their hands it's disgusting. Look Syria, Libya etc.. all because Assad and Gaddafi didn't align with their views (well Saudi's but thats a different discussion) and what did they get out of it? they created Isis, they initiated the Califat

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This is the true "deep state" that survived the turnover of administrations who then secretly waged an insurgent war against Trump of malicious false prosecution, fake investigations based on falsehoods, legal harassment and a quagmire of lies. In the case of the intelligence and law enforcement community, the Obama loyalists who were left behind actually waged coordinated action for quite some time. They saw it as a "Resistance", like it was their patriotic duty, when in fact it was legitimately traitorous.

Again three falsehoods: 1. The senate just published a bipartisan 1000 pages report about russian collusion with aspects the Mueller report didn't entail, because it wasn't criminal.
2. Mueller wasn't that kind. He is an old Republican leaning guy
3. Trump with short sighted tactics made all this cabal possible.
(the media was bad also, the intercept analized it)
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They have since nearly all been neutralized by the simple fact that had nothing but lies upon which to base any action. Many are now facing investigation or prosecution themselves as a result.

You really believe that, yes? After four years not one conviction. Good luck.

Have you not been paying attention for the last 4years? 4 wasted years all initated be a peepee dossier that was commissioned as some perverted fantasy of Clinton to shame Trump and then weaponised to undermined democracy.
The senate had to release a report to cover their asses as to why they permitted that total waste of time and money and embarrassment for what was essentially a fetish fanfiction.
The only people that were convicted in the original investigation were those for other crimes or process crimes.. let that sink in NOONE was convicted, nothing was found to hint that any "collusion" took place.
Meanwhile heads are starting to roll based upon how a FISA (a counter espionage tool) was used against a presidential candidate.. More heads will roll as we get closer and closer to November. Obama's administration broke the law on soo many instances (remember the killing of a US citizen without due process) and how far up evidence can be shown will be interesting. Who will roll to permit impeaching Obama or Clinton. THEN will people open their eyes?

While Obama was a breath of fresh air when compared to Bush, what followed was a disaster. What Trump is doing (different from his trolling on twitter) is good and despite the propaganda in the press is right. Remember when the world said he was racist for shutting flight from China in Jan? remember? gosh how silly everyone who called him racist must look now when we are what? 800 thousands deaths into Kung-flu

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The saddest part, though, is that the Democrats have now established a solid precedent for such behavior. The Republicans will now no doubt similarly purge the radical left from government and build their own carefully hidden deep state to linger on like slowly growing colo-rectal polyps and later "resist" the Democrats. AND, perhaps most notably, when it does happen, when the FBI is investigating Joe Biden or Kama Harris or whatever, the Democrats will quite characteristically bitch and whine to high heaven like it's completely unprecedented and evil and who could ever think such a thing could happen. It will probably be truly awful, given the amount of ammo corrupt-ass Joe Biden has provided with his dirty dealings in Ukraine.
The point you make is: The american presidency is like a kingdom and your democracy only can out live that with a change of the party clinging to power. Sad. In Germany we have more power to the states. They form what is your senate.
Joe Biden has done in the Ukraine what all of Europe had asked him to do. If you hear some soundbites of the telephone talk with Ukraine: This pretty much sounds like corrupt mafia. But it wasn't, it only was the sound of stutter in older age of the person.
There was never before a presidency in the U.S. that uncarefully had not hidden any wrong doing but now sends tweeds about it in open (Every president makes errors and walks on a line near illegality in war times). And incompetence: Trump needs four more years because much of his agenda often crashes in front of judges (he himself selected).

By the way, it sounds very childish when you talk about all Democrats as bad people. And the many never Trump Republicans are also part of that conspiracy you claim exists? And the once in Trump government also?


he needs the time due to the sabotage by the establishment. Rather than planning out how to win the next election they hindered every single step causing more damage... butterfly effect... read up on Chaos theory and Game theory ...
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