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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Here's a one... just to remind you : Individual mandate is now gone. Every libertarian is massively happy about that.


that will just make prices climb.


"It turns out that across the board, for all ages and family sizes, for HMO, PPO, and POS plans, premium increases averaged about 60 percent from 2013, the last year before ACA reforms took effect, to 2017. In same length of time preceding that, all groups experienced premium increases of less than 10 percent, and most age groups actually experienced premium decreases, on average."


Indeed. That's because the ACA is a clusterfuck in a system that's completely fucked.

But that's not the individual mandate causing the price rises. It's everything else. What Trump has done is the easiest thing without regard for how it will affect the overall system and balloon costs (like with the deficit). He took something and removed a necessary unpleasant part to make people happy. He doesn't give a fuck about the long term fiscal consequences. He interested in "winning".
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are there enough americans to staff the government at the rate Trump is firing people? Tillerson is gone.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Are there enough americans to staff the government at the rate Trump is firing people? Tillerson is gone.


Now you should tell your little kids if they refuse to eat the salad again, that they later end up as Rex Tillerson and they get fired by their boss via Twitter!
https://www.wsj.com/articles/rex-eat-the-saladinside-the-awkward-relationship-between-rex-tillerson-and-donald-trump-1520961762
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Are there enough americans to staff the government at the rate Trump is firing people? Tillerson is gone.
I hope not.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Are there enough americans to staff the government at the rate Trump is firing people? Tillerson is gone.
Sounds like he should have been fired a long time ago.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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But, would Bernie win?

Depends on how you define "would".
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

it's great that you guys are talking about porn stars instead of your massive deficit. That should be great for future americans.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Exactly. Besides, Bill Clinton already lowered the sexual morality bar far below this.

"Stuck his cigar in the 'Oval Office' of a White House Intern, got head and shot his wad on her dress, and then lied about it bold-faced like a con man under oath and on national television in a speech to the American People" definitely eclipses "once had a discreet affair with a porn star years ago before he was even a public official".
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Bill Clinton


Who?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You know. That former President and rapist con man who got impeached and whose wife just lost the Presidential election?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh, that guy. Why are we talking about him? is he running again?

Without looking it is up, who is the only president to serve two non-consecutive terms?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you were paying any attention at all, that would already be obvious to you, assuming an IQ above 80. I said that Trump's alleged affair is fake outrage given the same people said it was okay that Bill Clinton did far, far worse (and then lied about to their faces, repeatedly and under oath).

Non-consecutive terms? Without looking, Garfield is my guess.

Edit: dammit
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 2:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Non-consecutive terms? Without looking, Garfield is my guess.

Edit: dammit
I came close (1), but didn't think it was the correct answer. And I knew (2).

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1. McKinley
2. it wasn't a "commonly" referenced president.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 3:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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oh, that guy. Why are we talking about him? is he running again?

Without looking it is up, who is the only president to serve two non-consecutive terms?
Teddy Roosevelt.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Without looking it up, who was the only Catholic Bishop to, while sitting astride his horse to watch his army of Holy Roman Empire Crusaders line up for battle, have his horse get spooked and charge out of control across the open field into the mass of Slavic pagans barbarians (east Germans) , who, to the horror of his onlooking German knights, immediately pulled him from his horse and howled in delight as they chopped him to pieces and flung the parts high in the air?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damned pagan barbarians! They are like sand!
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like sands through the hourglass, so are the days of our lives.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

:lol:

Geez, does that bring back memories.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bones McCracker wrote:
Without looking it up, who was the only Catholic Bishop to, while sitting astride his horse to watch his army of Holy Roman Empire Crusaders line up for battle, have his horse get spooked and charge out of control across the open field into the mass of Slavic pagans barbarians (east Germans) , who, to the horror of his onlooking German knights, immediately pulled him from his horse and howled in delight as they chopped him to pieces and flung the parts high in the air?
No joke, in this book I'm reading one chapter goes over this:
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During the thirteenth century, the Order of Teutonic Knights set about creating a new state of their own. After fifty turbulent years of combat, the Order successfully Christianized Prussia by the efficient method of exterminating the entire native population and replacing it with Germans. By 1281, the Order’s hold on lands once owned by the heathen Slavs was secure.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2018 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trump signs budget buster but claims never again.

Yeah. Right.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2018 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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oh, that guy. Why are we talking about him? is he running again?

Without looking it is up, who is the only president to serve two non-consecutive terms?


Pornstar...A
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2018 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Trump signs budget buster but claims never again.

Yeah. Right.


Trumpgret?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2018 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Trump signs budget buster but claims never again.

Yeah. Right.

We'll see.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2018 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tylerwylie wrote:
Bones McCracker wrote:
Without looking it up, who was the only Catholic Bishop to, while sitting astride his horse to watch his army of Holy Roman Empire Crusaders line up for battle, have his horse get spooked and charge out of control across the open field into the mass of Slavic pagans barbarians (east Germans) , who, to the horror of his onlooking German knights, immediately pulled him from his horse and howled in delight as they chopped him to pieces and flung the parts high in the air?
No joke, in this book I'm reading one chapter goes over this:
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During the thirteenth century, the Order of Teutonic Knights set about creating a new state of their own. After fifty turbulent years of combat, the Order successfully Christianized Prussia by the efficient method of exterminating the entire native population and replacing it with Germans. By 1281, the Order’s hold on lands once owned by the heathen Slavs was secure.
:lol: :lol:

That's a bit of a summation, but yeah. Look up the "Baltic Crusades". Cool stuff, buried long ago by political correctness, and still nobody talks about it for the same reason.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2018 1:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Trump signs budget buster but claims never again.

Yeah. Right.


Trumpgret?
I didn't vote for him in the first place, but he is far better than Crooked Hillary Clinton.
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