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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 1:17 am    Post subject: Nicolas Cage has ascended to his purest form. Reply with quote

https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/movies/amp21969171/nicolas-cage-mandy-trailer/

This is a much talked about movie that we're expecting.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 6:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://youtu.be/rI054ow6KJk

Here's the trailer.

You fuckers need to appreciate art.

This is really big!
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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—covered in blood, screaming nonsense into our faces. He will growl, he will shriek, he will swing some sort of mythical homemade axe.


I get that every Saturday night outside me local.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I never get excited about Nick Cage movies but I tend to enjoy them. Kind of a mystery to me.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Visionary director?
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Writer (2 credits)
2018/I Mandy (story by) / (written by)
2010 Beyond the Black Rainbow (written by)

Director (2 credits)
2018/I Mandy
2010 Beyond the Black Rainbow

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Visionary director?
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Writer (2 credits)
2018/I Mandy (story by) / (written by)
2010 Beyond the Black Rainbow (written by)

Director (2 credits)
2018/I Mandy
2010 Beyond the Black Rainbow


And picky.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And picky.


That made me chuckle.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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pjp wrote:
Visionary director?
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Writer (2 credits)
2018/I Mandy (story by) / (written by)
2010 Beyond the Black Rainbow (written by)

Director (2 credits)
2018/I Mandy
2010 Beyond the Black Rainbow


And picky.


:lol: :lol:
But the actor is not.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mandy? Why are they making a film about MDMA?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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a film about MDMA?
Based on the trailer, that's as goon an explanation as anything.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Visionary director?
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Writer (2 credits)
2018/I Mandy (story by) / (written by)
2010 Beyond the Black Rainbow (written by)

Director (2 credits)
2018/I Mandy
2010 Beyond the Black Rainbow


How many movies does a director have to make before he's considered visionary?

Have you seen his first film?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm willing to hear arguments. I would think some notoriety would be a good start. That could even happen with one movie.

@imdb 6.0/10
@rotten 52%, 52%

Maybe Mandy will be what solidifies him as visionary, but that label seems premature. They should call it the Theatrical Visionary Nobel.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The numbers that you so quote are popularity rating. But I don't think these numbers adequately explain the visual style and pacing of the movie for which he's been called visionary.

A better metric would be to watch the movie and then deciding.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 4:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

notageek wrote:
The numbers that you so quote are popularity rating. But I don't think these numbers adequately explain the visual style and pacing of the movie for which he's been called visionary.
That's fair, but then it reinforces prematurely calling him a visionary.

notageek wrote:
A better metric would be to watch the movie and then deciding.
I've mostly given up on Hollywood, but I haven't heard of Cage going off the deep end, so I might see this one. But I'm waiting to get an idea about what it is. Cryptic trailers seem to be an attempt at building hype while distracting from deficiencies.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 4:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nicolas Cage is a known factor. The movie's visuals seem different from regular run of the mill stuff, has elements of Mad Max Fury Road.

Add it all up, this is really big.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 5:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe huge?

Yeah, I saw the "elements of Mad Max Fury Road." I didn't want to point that out. I also saw elements of a mashup of Grindhouse/Hellraiser/Shaun of the Dead. I'm a big fan of Cage, but he ends up in some bad stuff at times. I'm hoping future trailers solidify which way this one is headed.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reviews of this film are in already. They all agree that Nick Cage is back!
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Reviews of this film are in already. They all agree that Nick Cage is back!


Wasn't we supposed to see beyond reviews according to your own earlier statements? I'm confused.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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They all agree that Nick Cage is back!


Is that a bad or good thing?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Reviews of this film are in already. They all agree that Nick Cage is back!


Wasn't we supposed to see beyond reviews according to your own earlier statements? I'm confused.


I can see how you can confuse rating numbers with reviews. Ratings are an aggregation of reviews that ultimately signify popularity but reading reviews, which are subjective blobs of text are commentary on the film and do not signify any popularity metrics.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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notageek wrote:
They all agree that Nick Cage is back!


Is that a bad or good thing?


I think the world missed Nicholas Cage. So a good thing.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Reviews of this film are in already. They all agree that Nick Cage is back!


Wasn't we supposed to see beyond reviews according to your own earlier statements? I'm confused.


I can see how you can confuse rating numbers with reviews. Ratings are an aggregation of reviews that ultimately signify popularity but reading reviews, which are subjective blobs of text are commentary on the film and do not signify any popularity metrics.


So, do not take notice of the pleb. Because ratings from reviews makes thumbs go up. Got it. :)
I think I stay with the statistics, you having a stinker of a metric for blockbuster movies. But I think you've shown some great moves going from La La Land.
I must also say, Nick is a heck of a guy. I just hope he gets to Europe instead. We know quality.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

notageek wrote:
I think the world missed Nicholas Cage.
Where did they go?

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2018 Mandy
2017 The Humanity Bureau
2017 Mom and Dad
2017 Inconceivable
2017 Vengeance: A Love Story
2017 Arsenal
2016 Army of One
2016 USS Indianapolis: Men of Courage
2016 Snowden
2016 Dog Eat Dog
2016 The Trust
2015 Pay the Ghost
2015 The Runner
2014 Dying of the Light
2014 Left Behind
2014 Outcast
2014 Rage
2013 Joe
2013 The Frozen Ground
2013 The Croods
2012 Stolen
2011 Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance
2011 Trespass
2011 Seeking Justice
2011 Drive Angry
2011 Season of the Witch
2010 The Sorcerer's Apprentice
2010 Kick-Ass

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't be so pedantic. You know very well they are not proper Nicolas Cage movies, except for maybe Kick Ass, Drive Angry and Mom & Dad.
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