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PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 4:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I misunderstood "build your own distribution ..." to mean exactly that as opposed to "customize your system / Gentoo how you want."
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hu wrote:
DDR is great exercise, but how are dance moves relevant here?


Because some wish to dictate to other do what they want...
And those people are incapable to understand, that it is not possible and that they have
no power to dictate. Despite they should never think about to dictate others what
they have to do.

That is why i have offered them either to learn about DDR as long the person is from Germany
or go directly to North-Korea and make own experience when others will dictate them what to do.

Comparing to them I have been grown in a country which has dictate what people have to do,
where to look and what to say. I don't wish that will repeat ever again.

These guys are like kids, they have no clue about words they say.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

figueroa wrote:
So, you skipped the TITLE and SUBTITLE of the article? "Why did Gentoo Linux fade into obscurity?


Did I understand that correctly. You have no single argument to protect your point of view? And you call everything else you don't like FAKE news? Wow.

How about go back to school?

figueroa wrote:
Read more and write less.


My sentiments exactly.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A few reasons. I was seduced primarily by Portage. I started using suckless software, and alongside I had
occasionally needed to compile my own programs when a binary package was not available. It was bugging
me that I made changes to the system that I couldn't keep track of - installing dependencies ad-hoc for
example and not being able to track whether i installed something on purpose or not.

I also wanted to do it for a long time as a learning experience. The reputation of a gentoo install was quite
appealing to me, because I had messed up easier installations before and been very frustrated at having
no idea how to resolve it. The guides around gentoo are so thorough that I would usually really understand
my problems once I'd fixed them, rather than just resorting to a script.

Finally, the wiki and community more generally have just been delightful. I hear people say the quality
has decreased since a while ago, but I have always been able to solve my problems by coming here.
Combined with the Arch wiki, which is also a really good resource.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stability, code quality, fun.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I usually recommend other distributions to people who ask me about installing Linux. Gentoo requires a certain mindset to appreciate, and a somewhat warped one at that. If you still remember Slackware fondly, if you've ever built Linux From Scratch (or been tempted to), and you see compiler errors as a challenge and not a distribution maintainer problem, Gentoo will eventually find you.

The most important feature of Gentoo for me is that it can be built entirely from source. As an engineer and hobbyist I often find myself trying to build some esoteric software, whether for meshing, airfoil analysis, astronomy, CNC, whatever. Having access to the library sources and development headers by default makes building such software much easier.

Another important aspect of Gentoo is that it is a rolling distribution. It's always close to the leading edge of upstream, and if I want bleeding edge I can always throw a '~' in package.accept_keywords. The other advantage of a rolling distribution is that upgrades are seamless. The only time I've ever had to 're-install' Gentoo since 2004 was during the 32-to-64 bit transition. Other than that, my half-dozen or so computer upgrades since then have simply been to copy the disks, boot up the new system, re-configure the kernel for the new system hardware, rebuild GCC and LLVM, and then rebuild @system and @world. Once done, my desktop and system looks just like it did before, only faster. Gentoo even tells me when it's time for a new faster system--whenever it takes longer than an hour or so to compile a package. (That package used to be OpenOffice, now it's QtWebKit and Chromium.)

I also love the choices Gentoo gives you. KDE is my primary desktop, but I also have XFCE installed, as well as most of Gnome. I run OpenRC and not systemd. With eselect I can choose among different blas, lapack, or compiler implementations. Most other distributions give you those choices only at installation. Gentoo allows you to run them all at once. With disk space and CPU cycles to burn, you can be like a kid in a candy store of compilers, build systems and applications.

I know the OP said three, but here's four: last but not least, the quality of the Gentoo developers and users is second-to-none. There are excellent and knowledgeable moderators on these forums, developers who hang out here as well, and a diverse user base with an insane variety of special needs. If I wanted to remote-mount /usr over a cell-based connection to the autopilot controller of a moving Tesla, there's probably some user here who has already done that and a moderator or dev who could explain the latency error messages.

I have few issues with Gentoo. AMD needs to get OpenCL working properly on their open-source drivers, the python folks need to stop making incompatible changes, and a lot of upstream maintainers need to learn how to use automake, cmake or meson properly, but those aren't Gentoo issues.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Tesla is already taken

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