Clean fresh install - is there a way?

[m.s.w]

Hello,
I have used Gentto for many years, but around 10 years ago I stopped because I got married.
I would like to go back to using it but the installation seems to be much worse these days. I just want to make one clean installation, stable release (amd64), no experiments (at least at the begginning), but even without desktop evironment (KDE or something) the emerge --world gives so many circular dependencies that I am even unable to read and list them all.
So I wonder is there a way to create basic working gentoo environment without this dependencies pain. After that I will start to adjust it and install more software and reinstall it.

Best Regards,
Mariusz
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[szatox]

Dude, what are you talking about?
You basically just untar stage 3 and install a bootloader and a kernel and you're good to go. How the hell do you get into any problems with emerge doing just that?

Now, if you want to actually ask for help, we're gonna need some details on what you've done and how it failed.

[charles17]

[joanandk]

@m.s.w
Welcome back. Installing Gentoo has gotten better in the last few years. If you have a fully blown USEFLAG in (now) /etc/portage/make.conf, this will throw some circular dependencies. I know of java and jpeg are one of them.
In this case, you will have to deactivate java for jpeg (USE="-java" emerge jpeg) to get jpeg installed and then install java.

A fresh installation with a full set of USEFLAG in the make.conf is tricky, not impossible.

If you get stuck, feel free to ask us.

Good luck.

BR

[Banana]

I'm not sure if you tried to update your old install or you want to start from a clean start.
- update after 10 years: A fresh install is faster
- fresh install just until boot and stuff: Easy
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[m.s.w]

[m.s.w]

[Logicien]

I want to say that I ever install the stage3 tarball some years ago and did an emerge world in it without any personnalisation, just the default values in make.conf and it fail. So yes I think that you must go slow with the USE flags and the global personnalisation.

USE flags who can be put together long ago and succeed may not after a long time.
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[imieinazwisko]

[m.s.w]

I got to tell you, that fresh install of Gentoo is still no go.
You say, that the installation has gotten easier over the years and I have to disagree with that.
After unpacking stage3, syncing portage and getting the message that portage needs to be updated with "emerge --oneshot portage" I got a message that glibc is old, that python and some other packages are in circular dependencies.
Let's be honest. This is a _clean and fresh_ install. This is not a user who broke something. This is something that developers just fu$%ed up. This should not happening on fresh installation.
Previously it was easier. Following the handbook was enough to have a working system. Now it is not.
Goodbye Gentoo.
RIP.
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Mark Twain said it best:
"If you have to swallow a frog, don't stare at it too long!"

[Hu]

From what stage3 did you start? It sounds like you started from a fairly outdated system, which would be strange for a stage3, if everything is working well.

[sdauth]

[ffpp]

[krinn]

[CaptainBlood]

[figueroa]

I think he's gone -- because of this:

[Banana]

this message about portage needs to be gone fast.
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[Tony0945]

[m.s.w]

[CaptainBlood]

Nice to hearing from you again.
Sometimes gentoo update may take some time to be set, depending on your config.
If you can afford it, run big builds at night time.
Thks 4 ur attention, interest & support.
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[figueroa]

I've been building mine for over 16 years now.