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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2020 2:04 am    Post subject: Recommend a good web browser with low compile time ? Reply with quote

I am installing qutebrowser atm and it is taking forever on an i7-7700HQ with -j8 particularly the qtwebengine+pyqt5...

How does firefox-bin compare to qutebrowser ? how long does it take for you to compile firefox-bin ?

Do you recommend the Tor browser ? since it comes bundled with all the binaries/libraries ?

many thanks
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2020 3:49 am    Post subject: Re: Recommend a good web browser with low compile time ? Reply with quote

LegionOfHell wrote:
I am installing qutebrowser atm and it is taking forever on an i7-7700HQ with -j8 particularly the qtwebengine+pyqt5...

How does firefox-bin compare to qutebrowser ? how long does it take for you to compile firefox-bin ?

Do you recommend the Tor browser ? since it comes bundled with all the binaries/libraries ?

many thanks


I have switched to vivaldi
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2020 4:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

what renderer does vivaldi use ? I expect it to be as bad as the other ones(chromium/firefox/qute...)
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2020 5:56 am    Post subject: Re: Recommend a good web browser with low compile time ? Reply with quote

LegionOfHell wrote:
How does firefox-bin compare to qutebrowser ? how long does it take for you to compile firefox-bin ?

Only the download time, firefox-bin is binary and download official build from mozilla site.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2020 7:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find firefox to be bearable in compile times. Just for reference, qtwebengine takes 40 minutes and firefox takes 10 minutes here (without pgo).

Sure there are binary alternatives, firefox-bin, google-chrome, vivaldi...
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2020 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Juippisi wrote:
I find firefox to be bearable in compile times. Just for reference, qtwebengine takes 40 minutes and firefox takes 10 minutes here (without pgo).

That is true but you should add also rust/clang/llvm compilation time for firefox.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2020 8:33 am    Post subject: Re: Recommend a good web browser with low compile time ? Reply with quote

LegionOfHell wrote:
How does firefox-bin compare to qutebrowser ? how long does it take for you to compile firefox-bin ?

Code:
~ # qlop -mc firefox-bin
www-client/firefox-bin: 2′07″ average for 33 merges
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2020 9:29 am    Post subject: Re: Recommend a good web browser with low compile time ? Reply with quote

LegionOfHell wrote:
I am installing qutebrowser atm and it is taking forever on an i7-7700HQ with -j8 particularly the qtwebengine+pyqt5...

How does firefox-bin compare to qutebrowser ? how long does it take for you to compile firefox-bin ?

Do you recommend the Tor browser ? since it comes bundled with all the binaries/libraries ?

many thanks


Try palemoon, it compiles fast and does not depend on stuff coming straight from hell like rust, nodejs, qtwebengine etc..
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2020 10:29 am    Post subject: Re: Recommend a good web browser with low compile time ? Reply with quote

LegionOfHell wrote:
I am installing qutebrowser atm and it is taking forever on an i7-7700HQ with -j8 particularly the qtwebengine+pyqt5...

How does firefox-bin compare to qutebrowser ? how long does it take for you to compile firefox-bin ?

Do you recommend the Tor browser ? since it comes bundled with all the binaries/libraries ?

many thanks

Try www-client/netsurf. Basic, very fast. Extremely fast compile time.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2020 3:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Recommend a good web browser with low compile time ? Reply with quote

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LegionOfHell wrote:
I am installing qutebrowser atm and it is taking forever on an i7-7700HQ with -j8 particularly the qtwebengine+pyqt5...

How does firefox-bin compare to qutebrowser ? how long does it take for you to compile firefox-bin ?

Do you recommend the Tor browser ? since it comes bundled with all the binaries/libraries ?

many thanks

Try www-client/netsurf. Basic, very fast. Extremely fast compile time.


This one is really nice indeed. It has been updated recently as well. (3.10) I hope a new ebuild will be available soon!

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NetSurf 3.10 features many fixes, better performance and improved functionality. In particular, handling of authentication, certificates and fetch errors have been updated and unified. The GTK front end has had a major overhaul too. We recommend all users upgrade to NetSurf 3.10.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2020 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Juippisi wrote:
I find firefox to be bearable in compile times. Just for reference, qtwebengine takes 40 minutes and firefox takes 10 minutes here (without pgo).

Sure there are binary alternatives, firefox-bin, google-chrome, vivaldi...


wow that is fast...what is your cpu and ram ?

qtwebengine took 2.5 hours here...
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2020 3:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LegionOfHell wrote:
what renderer does vivaldi use ? I expect it to be as bad as the other ones(chromium/firefox/qute...)


It is chromium, but it is distributed as a binary. I gave up for now on compiling browsers (though stil have qtwebengine/falkon combination install, where it does not require update).
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2020 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slightly off topic.

Talking about browsers. Which one would you recommend for developing and testing web applications (xhtml, php, mysql, js + jquery)?
I'm using firefox, konqueror and opera. Are there in portage any others with good debugging tools?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2020 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

apiaio wrote:
Slightly off topic.

Talking about browsers. Which one would you recommend for developing and testing web applications (xhtml, php, mysql, js + jquery)?
I'm using firefox, konqueror and opera. Are there in portage any others with good debugging tools?



I have no idea :) but my guess would be that you want to test on platforms most used by users ?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2020 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

apiaio wrote:
Slightly off topic.

Talking about browsers. Which one would you recommend for developing and testing web applications (xhtml, php, mysql, js + jquery)?
I'm using firefox, konqueror and opera. Are there in portage any others with good debugging tools?


Really you have it covered, I prefer FF as much as possible, but jump into Chrome or some chrome based browser as needed.
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