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LegionOfHell
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 Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2020 2:04 am Post subject: Recommend a good web browser with low compile time ? |
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I am installing qutebrowser atm and it is taking forever on an i7-7700HQ with -j8 particularly the qtwebengine+pyqt5...
How does firefox-bin compare to qutebrowser ? how long does it take for you to compile firefox-bin ?
Do you recommend the Tor browser ? since it comes bundled with all the binaries/libraries ?
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dmpogo
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| Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2020 3:49 am Post subject: Re: Recommend a good web browser with low compile time ? |
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| LegionOfHell wrote: | I am installing qutebrowser atm and it is taking forever on an i7-7700HQ with -j8 particularly the qtwebengine+pyqt5...
How does firefox-bin compare to qutebrowser ? how long does it take for you to compile firefox-bin ?
Do you recommend the Tor browser ? since it comes bundled with all the binaries/libraries ?
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I have switched to vivaldi |
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LegionOfHell
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| Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2020 4:31 am Post subject: |
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| what renderer does vivaldi use ? I expect it to be as bad as the other ones(chromium/firefox/qute...) |
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fedeliallalinea
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| Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2020 5:56 am Post subject: Re: Recommend a good web browser with low compile time ? |
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| LegionOfHell wrote: | | How does firefox-bin compare to qutebrowser ? how long does it take for you to compile firefox-bin ? |
Only the download time, firefox-bin is binary and download official build from mozilla site.
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I find firefox to be bearable in compile times. Just for reference, qtwebengine takes 40 minutes and firefox takes 10 minutes here (without pgo).
Sure there are binary alternatives, firefox-bin, google-chrome, vivaldi... |
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fedeliallalinea
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| Juippisi wrote: | | I find firefox to be bearable in compile times. Just for reference, qtwebengine takes 40 minutes and firefox takes 10 minutes here (without pgo). |
That is true but you should add also rust/clang/llvm compilation time for firefox.
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Ant P.
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| Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2020 8:33 am Post subject: Re: Recommend a good web browser with low compile time ? |
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| LegionOfHell wrote: | | How does firefox-bin compare to qutebrowser ? how long does it take for you to compile firefox-bin ? |
| Code: | ~ # qlop -mc firefox-bin
www-client/firefox-bin: 2′07″ average for 33 merges
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sdauth
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| Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2020 9:29 am Post subject: Re: Recommend a good web browser with low compile time ? |
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| LegionOfHell wrote: | I am installing qutebrowser atm and it is taking forever on an i7-7700HQ with -j8 particularly the qtwebengine+pyqt5...
How does firefox-bin compare to qutebrowser ? how long does it take for you to compile firefox-bin ?
Do you recommend the Tor browser ? since it comes bundled with all the binaries/libraries ?
many thanks |
Try palemoon, it compiles fast and does not depend on stuff coming straight from hell like rust, nodejs, qtwebengine etc.. |
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C5ace
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| Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2020 10:29 am Post subject: Re: Recommend a good web browser with low compile time ? |
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| LegionOfHell wrote: | I am installing qutebrowser atm and it is taking forever on an i7-7700HQ with -j8 particularly the qtwebengine+pyqt5...
How does firefox-bin compare to qutebrowser ? how long does it take for you to compile firefox-bin ?
Do you recommend the Tor browser ? since it comes bundled with all the binaries/libraries ?
many thanks |
Try www-client/netsurf. Basic, very fast. Extremely fast compile time.
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sdauth
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| Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2020 3:09 pm Post subject: Re: Recommend a good web browser with low compile time ? |
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| C5ace wrote: | | LegionOfHell wrote: | I am installing qutebrowser atm and it is taking forever on an i7-7700HQ with -j8 particularly the qtwebengine+pyqt5...
How does firefox-bin compare to qutebrowser ? how long does it take for you to compile firefox-bin ?
Do you recommend the Tor browser ? since it comes bundled with all the binaries/libraries ?
many thanks |
Try www-client/netsurf. Basic, very fast. Extremely fast compile time. |
This one is really nice indeed. It has been updated recently as well. (3.10) I hope a new ebuild will be available soon!
| Code: | | NetSurf 3.10 features many fixes, better performance and improved functionality. In particular, handling of authentication, certificates and fetch errors have been updated and unified. The GTK front end has had a major overhaul too. We recommend all users upgrade to NetSurf 3.10. |
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LegionOfHell
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| Juippisi wrote: | I find firefox to be bearable in compile times. Just for reference, qtwebengine takes 40 minutes and firefox takes 10 minutes here (without pgo).
Sure there are binary alternatives, firefox-bin, google-chrome, vivaldi... |
wow that is fast...what is your cpu and ram ?
qtwebengine took 2.5 hours here... |
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dmpogo
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| LegionOfHell wrote: | | what renderer does vivaldi use ? I expect it to be as bad as the other ones(chromium/firefox/qute...) |
It is chromium, but it is distributed as a binary. I gave up for now on compiling browsers (though stil have qtwebengine/falkon combination install, where it does not require update). |
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apiaio
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Slightly off topic.
Talking about browsers. Which one would you recommend for developing and testing web applications (xhtml, php, mysql, js + jquery)?
I'm using firefox, konqueror and opera. Are there in portage any others with good debugging tools? |
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dmpogo
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| apiaio wrote: | Slightly off topic.
Talking about browsers. Which one would you recommend for developing and testing web applications (xhtml, php, mysql, js + jquery)?
I'm using firefox, konqueror and opera. Are there in portage any others with good debugging tools? |
I have no idea  but my guess would be that you want to test on platforms most used by users ? |
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Makersmarx
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| apiaio wrote: | Slightly off topic.
Talking about browsers. Which one would you recommend for developing and testing web applications (xhtml, php, mysql, js + jquery)?
I'm using firefox, konqueror and opera. Are there in portage any others with good debugging tools? |
Really you have it covered, I prefer FF as much as possible, but jump into Chrome or some chrome based browser as needed.
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