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vorrei chiarimenti sull'eliminazione di pacchetti orfani o obsoleti con depclean...nonostante utilizzo gentoo da diversi anni non ho mai badato tanto a questo aspetto (pigrizia e "guarderò poi")
beh ora mi ritrovo con oltre 70 pacchetti (mi sembrano troppi...) che emerge --depclean vorrebbe eliminarmi ma non so se effettivamenti siano tutti sacrificabili. per dire, ad esempio, mi propone di eliminare nano ma poche righe sopra mi sconsiglia di farlo
la mia domanda...posso dare per certo che i pacchetti che mi tornano con emerge --depclean non siano più necessari? e nano?
posto qui l'output
| Code: | gentoo ~ # emerge --ask --depclean
* Always study the list of packages to be cleaned for any obvious
* mistakes. Packages that are part of the world set will always
* be kept. They can be manually added to this set with
* `emerge --noreplace <atom>`. Packages that are listed in
* package.provided (see portage(5)) will be removed by
* depclean, even if they are part of the world set.
*
* As a safety measure, depclean will not remove any packages
* unless *all* required dependencies have been resolved. As a
* consequence of this, it often becomes necessary to run
* `emerge --update --newuse --deep @world` prior to depclean.
Calculating dependencies... done!
>>> Calculating removal order...
>>> These are the packages that would be unmerged:
x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse
selected: 1.9.3
protected: none
omitted: none
!!! 'app-editors/nano' (virtual/editor) is part of your system profile.
!!! Unmerging it may be damaging to your system.
app-editors/nano
selected: 4.2
protected: none
omitted: none
dev-lang/vala
selected: 0.42.7
protected: none
omitted: 0.46.7
dev-python/bz2file
selected: 0.98
protected: none
omitted: none
media-libs/libdvbpsi
selected: 1.3.2
protected: none
omitted: none
dev-python/pygtk
selected: 2.24.0-r4
protected: none
omitted: none
virtual/python-ipaddress
selected: 1.0-r1
protected: none
omitted: none
dev-java/ant-apache-bsf
selected: 1.10.7
protected: none
omitted: none
sys-kernel/gentoo-sources
selected: 4.19.66
protected: none
omitted: 5.4.38
sys-devel/llvm
selected: 7.1.0
protected: none
omitted: 9.0.1
dev-python/pyenchant
selected: 1.6.6
protected: none
omitted: none
x11-libs/libwnck
selected: 2.31.0
protected: none
omitted: 3.30.0
virtual/shadow
selected: 0
protected: none
omitted: none
dev-lang/mujs
selected: 1.0.6
protected: none
omitted: none
dev-python/wxpython
selected: 4.0.6
protected: none
omitted: 3.0.2.0
media-libs/gegl
selected: 0.3.34
protected: none
omitted: 0.4.18
sys-devel/llvm
selected: 8.0.1
protected: none
omitted: 9.0.1
virtual/pam
selected: 0-r1
protected: none
omitted: none
app-portage/unsymlink-lib
selected: 17
protected: none
omitted: none
dev-util/astyle
selected: 3.1-r2
protected: none
omitted: none
dev-libs/iniparser
selected: 3.1-r1
protected: none
omitted: none
dev-java/bsh
selected: 2.0_beta6
protected: none
omitted: none
media-gfx/scour
selected: 0.37
protected: none
omitted: none
app-eselect/eselect-opencl
selected: 1.1.0-r4
protected: none
omitted: none
x11-libs/libXxf86misc
selected: 1.0.4
protected: none
omitted: none
media-gfx/uniconvertor
selected: 2.0_pre379-r2
protected: none
omitted: none
sys-kernel/gentoo-sources
selected: 4.19.97
protected: none
omitted: 5.4.38
sys-kernel/gentoo-sources
selected: 4.19.57
protected: none
omitted: 5.4.38
dev-java/jsr305
selected: 3.0.1
protected: none
omitted: none
sys-kernel/gentoo-sources
selected: 4.19.72
protected: none
omitted: 5.4.38
x11-libs/gtksourceview
selected: 2.10.5-r3
protected: none
omitted: 3.24.11 4.4.0
dev-python/lxml
selected: 4.4.2
protected: none
omitted: none
dev-python/asn1crypto
selected: 0.22.0
protected: none
omitted: none
virtual/python-enum34
selected: 2
protected: none
omitted: none
x11-drivers/xf86-input-keyboard
selected: 1.9.0
protected: none
omitted: none
virtual/libmysqlclient
selected: 18-r1
protected: none
omitted: none
sys-kernel/gentoo-sources
selected: 4.19.86
protected: none
omitted: 5.4.38
x11-themes/gtk-engines-xfce
selected: 3.2.0-r201
protected: none
omitted: none
dev-lang/php
selected: 7.3.17
protected: none
omitted: 7.4.6
dev-lang/yasm
selected: 1.3.0
protected: none
omitted: none
dev-python/pyblake2
selected: 1.1.2
protected: none
omitted: none
gnome-base/gnome-common
selected: 3.18.0-r1
protected: none
omitted: none
dev-python/pyxattr
selected: 0.6.0-r1
protected: none
omitted: none
media-libs/libmad
selected: 0.15.1b-r9
protected: none
omitted: none
dev-lang/vala
selected: 0.44.11
protected: none
omitted: 0.46.7
dev-libs/libpthread-stubs
selected: 0.4-r1
protected: none
omitted: none
sys-kernel/gentoo-sources
selected: 5.4.28
protected: none
omitted: 5.4.38
dev-java/ant-contrib
selected: 1.0_beta3-r2
protected: none
omitted: none
dev-java/icedtea-web
selected: 1.6.2
protected: none
omitted: none
sys-kernel/gentoo-sources
selected: 4.19.82
protected: none
omitted: 5.4.38
app-eselect/eselect-cblas
selected: 0.1
protected: none
omitted: none
dev-python/pygobject
selected: 2.28.6-r55
protected: none
omitted: 3.34.0
sys-devel/gcc
selected: 9.2.0-r2
protected: none
omitted: 8.3.0-r3 9.3.0
dev-python/cython
selected: 0.29.4
protected: none
omitted: none
app-doc/doxygen
selected: 1.8.16-r1
protected: none
omitted: none
dev-python/pathlib2
selected: 2.3.5
protected: none
omitted: none
java-virtuals/servlet-api
selected: 3.0-r2
protected: none
omitted: none
media-gfx/imagemagick
selected: 7.0.10.7-r1
protected: none
omitted: none
dev-java/ant-ivy
selected: 1.4.1-r1
protected: none
omitted: none
dev-java/xerces
selected: 2.12.0
protected: none
omitted: none
dev-java/bsf
selected: 2.4.0-r2
protected: none
omitted: none
dev-java/commons-vfs
selected: 1.0-r1
protected: none
omitted: none
dev-java/xml-commons-external
selected: 1.4.01-r1
protected: none
omitted: none
dev-java/xalan
selected: 2.7.2
protected: none
omitted: none
dev-java/commons-cli
selected: 1.3.1
protected: none
omitted: none
dev-java/xml-commons-resolver
selected: 1.2-r1
protected: none
omitted: none
dev-java/tomcat-servlet-api
selected: 7.0.100
protected: none
omitted: none
dev-python/scandir
selected: 1.10.0-r1
protected: none
omitted: none
dev-java/jakarta-oro
selected: 2.0.8-r3
protected: none
omitted: none
dev-java/xjavac
selected: 2.4.0
protected: none
omitted: none
sys-devel/binutils
selected: 2.32-r1
protected: none
omitted: 2.33.1-r1
dev-lang/python
selected: 3.6.10-r2
protected: none
omitted: 2.7.18 3.7.7-r2 3.8.2-r2
dev-java/commons-collections
selected: 3.2.1-r1
protected: none
omitted: none
dev-java/commons-net
selected: 3.2
protected: none
omitted: none
dev-java/xalan-serializer
selected: 2.7.2
protected: none
omitted: none
dev-java/jsch
selected: 0.1.52
protected: none
omitted: none
dev-java/bcel
selected: 6.0_rc3
protected: none
omitted: none
dev-java/commons-httpclient
selected: 3.1-r1
protected: none
omitted: none
dev-java/commons-codec
selected: 1.7
protected: none
omitted: none
dev-java/jzlib
selected: 1.0.7-r2
protected: none
omitted: none
dev-java/commons-logging
selected: 1.2-r1
protected: none
omitted: none
dev-java/jflex
selected: 1.6.1
protected: none
omitted: none
dev-java/javacup
selected: 0.11b_p20151001
protected: none
omitted: none
dev-java/ant-core
selected: 1.10.7
protected: none
omitted: none
dev-java/javatoolkit
selected: 0.3.0-r9
protected: none
omitted: none
All selected packages: =dev-java/ant-contrib-1.0_beta3-r2 =dev-python/cython-0.29.4 =dev-python/pyxattr-0.6.0-r1 =sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-4.19.66 =sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-5.4.28 =sys-devel/gcc-9.2.0-r2 =sys-devel/binutils-2.32-r1 =dev-java/commons-codec-1.7 =dev-java/ant-core-1.10.7 =media-gfx/scour-0.37 =dev-java/javatoolkit-0.3.0-r9 =dev-python/asn1crypto-0.22.0 =dev-java/xjavac-2.4.0 =dev-lang/vala-0.44.11 =dev-python/scandir-1.10.0-r1 =dev-java/xalan-serializer-2.7.2 =dev-java/jzlib-1.0.7-r2 =dev-python/pathlib2-2.3.5 =dev-java/xalan-2.7.2 =media-libs/gegl-0.3.34 =dev-java/commons-logging-1.2-r1 =x11-themes/gtk-engines-xfce-3.2.0-r201 =dev-python/wxpython-4.0.6 =dev-libs/iniparser-3.1-r1 =dev-java/javacup-0.11b_p20151001 =gnome-base/gnome-common-3.18.0-r1 =dev-java/commons-net-3.2 =dev-java/jsch-0.1.52 =sys-devel/llvm-7.1.0 =x11-libs/libwnck-2.31.0 =x11-libs/gtksourceview-2.10.5-r3 =dev-java/commons-collections-3.2.1-r1 =dev-lang/vala-0.42.7 =x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse-1.9.3 =dev-lang/mujs-1.0.6 =dev-java/tomcat-servlet-api-7.0.100 =dev-java/bsh-2.0_beta6 =app-editors/nano-4.2 =sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-4.19.82 =dev-java/jakarta-oro-2.0.8-r3 =dev-java/ant-ivy-1.4.1-r1 =dev-util/astyle-3.1-r2 =dev-java/ant-apache-bsf-1.10.7 =media-gfx/imagemagick-7.0.10.7-r1 =dev-java/jflex-1.6.1 =virtual/libmysqlclient-18-r1 =dev-java/bcel-6.0_rc3 =app-eselect/eselect-opencl-1.1.0-r4 =virtual/python-enum34-2 =dev-java/jsr305-3.0.1 =media-libs/libmad-0.15.1b-r9 =virtual/shadow-0 =dev-python/lxml-4.4.2 =app-doc/doxygen-1.8.16-r1 =sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-4.19.72 =virtual/python-ipaddress-1.0-r1 =dev-python/pygobject-2.28.6-r55 =java-virtuals/servlet-api-3.0-r2 =dev-lang/python-3.6.10-r2 =dev-java/xml-commons-resolver-1.2-r1 =media-gfx/uniconvertor-2.0_pre379-r2 =dev-python/pyblake2-1.1.2 =dev-python/pygtk-2.24.0-r4 =sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-4.19.86 =app-portage/unsymlink-lib-17 =sys-devel/llvm-8.0.1 =dev-java/xml-commons-external-1.4.01-r1 =dev-java/commons-vfs-1.0-r1 =x11-drivers/xf86-input-keyboard-1.9.0 =media-libs/libdvbpsi-1.3.2 =dev-lang/yasm-1.3.0 =dev-lang/php-7.3.17 =sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-4.19.97 =dev-java/bsf-2.4.0-r2 =dev-libs/libpthread-stubs-0.4-r1 =x11-libs/libXxf86misc-1.0.4 =virtual/pam-0-r1 =app-eselect/eselect-cblas-0.1 =sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-4.19.57 =dev-java/commons-cli-1.3.1 =dev-java/commons-httpclient-3.1-r1 =dev-java/icedtea-web-1.6.2 =dev-java/xerces-2.12.0 =dev-python/pyenchant-1.6.6 =dev-python/bz2file-0.98
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grazie mille a chi ha voglia di dedicarmi qualche minuto per aiutarmi a capire meglio 
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Per nano dipende da cosa hai impostato come editor di sistema, per esempio io ho impostato vim (eselect editor list) cosi' che depclean mi ha fatto eliminare nano con lo stesso messaggio.
Questo accade perche' nano e' l'editor di default per gentoo.
Il resto dei pacchetti non mi sembra ci sia niente che possa compromettere il tuo sistema, fai solo attenzione hai pacchetti slottati come il kernel o gcc, nel primo caso assicurati che elimini quelli che non usi piu' mentre per gcc decidi tu se vuoi quelle versioni (io per esempio tengo sempre l'ultimo e con gli altri creo il binario con quickpkg).
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grazie! sempre gentilissimo.
strano per nano dato che è quello il mio editor di default, per questo mi chiedevo.
oggi faccio un pò di pulizia....
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| luna80 wrote: | | strano per nano dato che è quello il mio editor di default, per questo mi chiedevo. |
E' selezionato in eselect editor list?
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| fedeliallalinea wrote: | | luna80 wrote: | | strano per nano dato che è quello il mio editor di default, per questo mi chiedevo. |
E' selezionato in eselect editor list? |
noto ora che no, non è selezionato, non è selezionato nessuno a dire il vero
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| luna80 wrote: | | noto ora che no, non è selezionato, non è selezionato nessuno a dire il vero |
Se lo selezioni, sempre con eselect, dovrebbe sparire dalla lista di depclean
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| fedeliallalinea wrote: | | luna80 wrote: | | noto ora che no, non è selezionato, non è selezionato nessuno a dire il vero |
Se lo selezioni, sempre con eselect, dovrebbe sparire dalla lista di depclean |
si, infatti. era quello, thanks.
sto googlagando anche per quickpkg così mi creo i binari delle vecchie versioni di gcc, grazie del consiglio
giornata di manutenzione insomma
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| luna80 wrote: | | sto googlagando anche per quickpkg così mi creo i binari delle vecchie versioni di gcc, grazie del consiglio |
C'e' anche una guida sul wiki
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si, l'ho vista!
cmq avevo visto male...il warning del nano nel depclean c'è anche se l'ho impostato di default con eselect..
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Cosa contiene il file /etc/env.d/99editor?
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ecco
| Code: | gentoo ~ # more /etc/env.d/99editor
# Configuration file for eselect
# This file has been automatically generated.
EDITOR="nano" |
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Sta storia della rimozione di "nano" al depclean c'è da una vita e sinceramente non ho mai capito perchè visto che è di default già allo stage3.
spesso basta o una ricompilata allo stesso nano (senza l'opzione --oneshot | -1 ) , oppure aggiungerlo al world file
| Code: | --deselect [ y | n ]
Remove atoms and/or sets from the world file. This action is implied by uninstall actions, including --depclean, --prune and --unmerge. Use --deselect=n in order to pre‐
vent uninstall actions from removing atoms from the world file.
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| Code: | | emerge --deselect n nano |
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| sabayonino wrote: | | Sta storia della rimozione di "nano" al depclean c'è da una vita e sinceramente non ho mai capito perchè visto che è di default già allo stage3. |
Tipo dal 2011?
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LOL
forse anche da prima e nessuno se n'era mai accorto 
Ormai ho preso l'abitudine già al primo "emerge" di inserirlo direttamente nel world , non ci faccio più nemmeno caso sinceramente.
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come si dice mal comune mezzo gaudio...non è grave cmq, soprattutto c'è più di un workaround...
grazie ancora ad entrambi
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