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PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 2:38 pm    Post subject: Suggestion: make forum more mobile friendly Reply with quote

I often browse the forums on my Android phone, and I think a lot of people are doing this nowadays. :). The problem is that the forum is not very mobile friendly. Text is small, there is scrolling in all directions, etc.

Is Gentoo working on improving the forum with responsive, or at least mobile friendly themes?. I think newer versions of PhpBB has support for responsive themes. Otherwise I think that NodeBB is pretty good. It has nifty support for autosave, cut and paste, code highlights, paste images from clipboard, etc. example at https://community.nodebb.org . There is also a migration from PhpBB to NodeBB available. https://community.nodebb.org/topic/2635/migrating-from-phpbb/2


Perhaps it would help the community if more mobile users could use the forum?

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-8342202.html#8342202 wrote:
Chiitoo wrote:
Fixed in phpBB3. :]

(It's probably not worth the time and effort to fix in phpBB2 at this point in time, and yes, we are going to upgrade... soon™.)

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Soon ™ :D

I guess they have their reasons. Though I much prefer them to switch to something more modern.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm repeating myself a bit here, but while NodeBB may be modern and all that, it would almost certainly turn away some users, or at least make them unhappy:

nodebb wrote:
Your browser does not seem to support JavaScript. As a result, your viewing experience will be diminished, and you may not be able to execute some actions.

Please download a browser that supports JavaScript, or enable it if it's disabled (i.e. NoScript).

I personally don't like how it looks and functions at all, and I'm pretty sure there are a lot of people like me here in that regard. :]

That is, I don't quite see us changing to /that/ in any of the nearby futures... but that's me.

Thanks for the suggestion, though!
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yikes. Imposing a Javascript requirement on a forum that's currently accessible from `links -g` on the install CD is a complete non-starter.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Based on node.js

*yikes*
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 2:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would not use a forum based on NodeBB. From clicking around the first few pages, I see that it uses broken Unicode for icons (probably a blocked webfont). I see the NoScript banner that Chiitoo cited. I see that various buttons don't work (probably because Javascript is correctly disabled on unknown sites). Three strikes in the first two pages says to me that whoever designed this has bought entirely into the fiction that "Web 2.0" is a good thing, and there are probably more surprises lurking if I bothered to dig deeper. I concur with Chiitoo and Ant P.: though that forum might provide some hints about design (though I don't think even that looks good), the implementation is not appropriate for the Gentoo forums.

I can see why someone might want to read the forum on a mobile device (especially if they're trying to find responses about how to fix a broken computer), but for how I use the forum, I need better keyboard input than a mobile can readily provide. I use a computer (sometimes tower, sometimes laptop) with a physical keyboard in order to post.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was just a suggestion :oops:

I agree with the Javascript issues too.

I do use my phone both for forum usage and server admin over ssh quite a lot more than from the computer.

All I really want is a little better mobile layout.

Here is a screenshot on how this post looks like at the moment (is there no way to upload to the forum?). https://pasteboard.co/IFyBIky.jpg
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Surely there has to be a viable solution that can satisfy normal, mobile, no-script, and text-only (perhaps with different interface that share a same posts database). I imagine it may end up being a lot of work to convert and put things together though.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gatak wrote:
All I really want is a little better mobile layout.

phpbb3 solve the problem
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Then I will be patient a little longer. :)
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well...
Just one point from me:

Keep it simple, please, please, please!
It's just a bunch of documents and forms. There is not a single thing that requires client-side scripts.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another voice for "keep it simple" over here.
I have no problem with making this forum more "mobile friendly", but it needs to remain unusable and responsive in links/lynx/other simple browsers.
I have seen a great many forums transition to "modern" and "reactive" platforms, and the result has invariably been a dog-slow mess that doesn't work properly with javascript disabled.

Gatak wrote:
I agree with the Javascript issues too...
Here is a screenshot on how this post looks like at the moment (is there no way to upload to the forum?). https://pasteboard.co/IFyBIky.jpg

Is there no way to see your image without a bunch of javascript? :P
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 5:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also vote for a forum software without any JavaScript code. My dream of reducing the size of my browser's JavaScript whitelist to zero will be easier in that case.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

steve_v wrote:
Gatak wrote:
I agree with the Javascript issues too...
Here is a screenshot on how this post looks like at the moment (is there no way to upload to the forum?). https://pasteboard.co/IFyBIky.jpg

Is there no way to see your image without a bunch of javascript? :P
It will when the forum has support for attached images 8)
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

++javascript=no

I just wish we could ask duckduckgo/google/isthereanyoneelse for javashit-free sites
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Goverp wrote:
++javascript=no

I just wish we could ask duckduckgo/google/isthereanyoneelse for javashit-free sites
https://duckduckgo.com/html/
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 23, 2019 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pjp, thanks, but not what I meant. I want a search engine that filters out web pages containing JavaScript. OK, there would be almost nothing left, but perhaps that's good.
What's really needed is a training course for web newbies "JavaScript - Just Say No", but of course all the "easy website builder" packages push packaged JS as if it were added value, rather than bloat.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Split off Writing web login without javascript?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 3:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I registered just to make this suggestion. Browsing from mobile now and it's pretty thumb intensive with scrolling side to side and zooming in and oit
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 5:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any news about the update to version 3? And is there any reason you have waited 12 years to update to version 3? :)
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