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PostPosted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 8:47 pm    Post subject: Too small font here on the forum Reply with quote

Hello, IMO the font here is too small and straining on the eyes.

I know I can magnify with browser, but the default here is just - tiny.

I like e.g. the fontsize at https://forum.xfce.org/ (perhap they have newer phpBB? i do not know...)
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

According to my browser's inspector, your link is 15px tall, has a font-size of 12px, a line-height of 18px, and font-family of Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif.

The linked page has a link that is 17px tall, has a font-size of 13px, a line-height of 17px (yes, shorter), and a font-family of sans-serif,Verdana,Arial,Helvetica.

Thus, yes, they use a slightly bigger font.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hu wrote:
According to my browser's inspector, your link is 15px tall, has a font-size of 12px, a line-height of 18px, and font-family of Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif.

The linked page has a link that is 17px tall, has a font-size of 13px, a line-height of 17px (yes, shorter), and a font-family of sans-serif,Verdana,Arial,Helvetica.

Thus, yes, they use a slightly bigger font.


The one pixel makes for quite a big difference, really (namely when editing a post).
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think there is also a question whether your browser respects the fonts that the site requests
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 06, 2019 5:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well the font I see is on both pages is Liberation Sans (which respect the "sans-serif" font in css), so I am comparing apples to apples. I have not installed extra fonts, I guess many people are seeing the page as I am.

For textarea (writing, editing posts), forum.xfce.org uses 1em size, which translates to 12.8px. It is opposed to mere 11px here on gentoo.

Also, .postdetails here are just 10px - they are 1em (12.8px) at the other site.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 06, 2019 6:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ctrl+Shift++
AFAIR, firefox remembers the magnification by site, so it's persistent.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 06, 2019 6:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Goverp wrote:
Ctrl+Shift++
AFAIR, firefox remembers the magnification by site, so it's persistent.


Or ctrl+mousewheel. I know that, as I have written. But how many people knows that and/or find this information? I think the default ought to be changed.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 06, 2019 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The defaults here are pretty bad, yes. It's only readable at all because most people's systems fake a font for Verdana/Arial; X11 Helvetica is a horrible eyesore.

It's going to be fixed “soon”, or so we're told.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 06, 2019 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Browser extension - https://nosquint.en.uptodown.com/windows
I'm watching right now at 110%, some sites require 120% and even 130%
I have cataracts and am far-sighted.

EDIT:
If it matters my default font is Arial 16. Yes, I've installed Arial on Gentoo but I think it may be a legal thicket.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 06, 2019 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, font is really small.
Luckily, it's better with browser zoom and it remembers the size, but still it's not perfect.
Besides, this is the only site where I had to use that feature in Firefox
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