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PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 10:44 pm    Post subject: Confused about systemd Reply with quote

Hey all,

Noob here. My issue isn't particularly technical but it is causing me to pull my hair out.
I've completed all of the steps in the AMD64 handbook up to the point where it reads:

Optional: Using systemd as the init system
"... If systemd is desired or if the reader will be installing GNOME 3.8 and later (which requires systemd), please consult the systemd article."


I do want to use systemd and have selected the systemd 17.1 profile and the systemd stage3 tarball.
However, when I visit the systemd page it does not pick up where the handbook leaves off, or does not seem to. I can't seem to get many of the commands
to work after that point. I attempted to finish the install by guessing my way through the rest, but the install failed and I could not boot a working system.

My question is: Where should I go immediately after the point in the handbook mentioned above? Do I continue with the commands on the same page in the handbook,
and then read the systemd article?

Thank you in advance.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is wrong with the commands? They should at least barf some error message about what went wrong.
Just skip it. Your system boots and you get into a WM, it's all good.

Just glean the logs and dmesg for some fine tuning later.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

skellr wrote:
What is wrong with the commands? They should at least barf some error message about what went wrong.
Just skip it. Your system boots and you get into a WM, it's all good.

Just glean the logs and dmesg for some fine tuning later.



I restarted from scratch so I no longer have the prompt in front of me to give specific error messages, I do apologize, I know it would be much easier to help me if I could provide them. However, none of them were obscure, they mostly yelled at me about the commands not being found on my system, which leads me to believe that there were some steps that had been completely skipped.

For instance, when attempting to run:
Code:
 emerge --ask sys-kernel/genkernel-next


the genkernel-next file was not found.
Code:
genkernel --install all
also failed because genkernel was not found.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 12:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

captainprentice wrote:
skellr wrote:
What is wrong with the commands? They should at least barf some error message about what went wrong.
Just skip it. Your system boots and you get into a WM, it's all good.

Just glean the logs and dmesg for some fine tuning later.



I restarted from scratch so I no longer have the prompt in front of me to give specific error messages, I do apologize, I know it would be much easier to help me if I could provide them. However, none of them were obscure, they mostly yelled at me about the commands not being found on my system, which leads me to believe that there were some steps that had been completely skipped.

For instance, when attempting to run:
Code:
 emerge --ask sys-kernel/genkernel-next


the genkernel-next file was not found.
Code:
genkernel --install all
also failed because genkernel was not found.

Ok, genkernel-next is available, to me anyway. Maybe there is an issue with your repository and it can't find the ebuild or "package".

The main repository is in /usr/portage . /usr/portage/distfiles contains all/most sources that you have downloaded so you might want to keep that directory... Try this.
Code:
mv /usr/portage/distfiles ~
rm -rf /usr/portage
emerge-webrrsync
emerge --sync
mv ~/distfiles /usr/portage

And then trry to install genkernel-next.

It should work or spew more fun errors you were just waiting to see. :)


Edit: You can skip emerge --sync if you want. Just updates the repository a few hours from the daily snapshot webrsync gives you.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 12:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ohh wait... I am late to the party. You already started over. Try not to do that if you can. You usually never find out what went wrong, it may happen again.

Anyway, good luck and welcome. :)
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 5:29 am    Post subject: Re: Confused about systemd Reply with quote

captainprentice wrote:
Optional: Using systemd as the init system
"... If systemd is desired or if the reader will be installing GNOME 3.8 and later (which requires systemd), please consult the systemd article."

Just on a side note, now you can install gnome without systemd see https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-1094796.html
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