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PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 1:19 am    Post subject: Who Makes the Best Printers Right Now? Reply with quote

I am looking for a printer that:

1. Uses driver-agnostic protocols.
2. Supports wired networking for both printing and scanning.
3. Isn't pure and utter shit.

Stay away from Brother. They are pure and utter shit. Particularly when it comes to the Web-based configuration interface.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No idea.

The last time I looked for a printer I had 2 requirements :

1. Be wireless (wife & daughter print more than I do).

2. Color laser.

I'm done with non-laser printers. Ink is a ripoff and the quality of the printing sucks in comparison.


When I was shopping for it, I just googled every model I saw that looked decent and read many reviews of each. I ended up with an HP. Mind you, I'll never buy an HP laptop... and my desktops I build from components. But their printers are decent.

So, my advice, look on Newegg or Amazon, check the various models, google, read reviews, and then make a choice.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 5:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm done with non-laser printers. .


It comes to something when its cheaper to buy a new printer, than to refill with branded cartridges.

Even non-branded aren't cheap, I don't print that much and I use a refill kit.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought an on sale (hp 1120n mfp) HP (scanner+printer+network) black/white laser printer. Wife can still print wireless through the wifi. Printing works just fine, scanning has it's quirks in linux. 7 years old now, never had to refill it so far.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laser only:

Brother Printers are decent.

Samsung isn't too shabby, but after a couple thousand pages it becomes very picky about the paper.

HP, 1320 still rules supreme. The rest is more meh than anything. I have seen too many HP laser printers with fucked up firmwares and no way to get them to behave again. The cartridge prizes are atrocious.

Rest: no first hand experience.

Ink:
Canon: DO NOT BUY
Epson: DO NOT BUY, or: buy a new one every 2000 sheets.
Lexmark: FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DO NOT BUY
HP: THEY ARE ALL GARBAGE NOW. DO NOT BUY

rest: no first hand experience
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please define exactly what you mean by best printers.

If you mean excellent print quality, then look for a laser printer and maybe with inbuilt network print server.

If you mean a printer that will last you 10 years, I'm afraid they stopped making those.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 9:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Who Makes the Best Printers Right Now? Reply with quote

wswartzendruber wrote:
Stay away from Brother. They are pure and utter shit. Particularly when it comes to the Web-based configuration interface.
My Brother printer from ~2003/04 is awesome. Not a single problem with it.

That said, I never tried to interact with it through a web connection. Do you know that to still be a problem with current models?

Without compelling quantifiable support for another brand, I'd have a difficult time randomly picking something else.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 9:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Who Makes the Best Printers Right Now? Reply with quote

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wswartzendruber wrote:
Stay away from Brother. They are pure and utter shit. Particularly when it comes to the Web-based configuration interface.
My Brother printer from ~2003/04 is awesome. Not a single problem with it.

That said, I never tried to interact with it through a web connection. Do you know that to still be a problem with current models?

Without compelling quantifiable support for another brand, I'd have a difficult time randomly picking something else.


well, the three we currently use at work are decent. Good quality. Sturdy. Easy. They just work.

But I do not buy printers who cost less than 200€ so maybe on the cheaper end they suck.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That could be. At the time, my printer was probably $300US, before a small discount if I recall correctly.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brother seems to be the highest recommended everywhere I have seen. Unfortunately some people think their laser printers claim the toner is out before it actually is. There's a modification you can make to the toner cartridge but this probably voids the warranty and Brother does not recommend it. Personally I would listen to them, they must be smart people to run such a successful business!
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 3:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Who Makes the Best Printers Right Now? Reply with quote

pjp wrote:
wswartzendruber wrote:
Stay away from Brother. They are pure and utter shit. Particularly when it comes to the Web-based configuration interface.
My Brother printer from ~2003/04 is awesome. Not a single problem with it.

That said, I never tried to interact with it through a web connection. Do you know that to still be a problem with current models?

Without compelling quantifiable support for another brand, I'd have a difficult time randomly picking something else.
Your brother is a lucky man. Hope he gets to keep his printer for another 14 years.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want a printer that'll last 10 years, buy one that's been used for 10 years.

I have to do occasional family tech support for a Kodak... ugh.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2017 1:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The best printer is no printer. What do you actually use it for?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2017 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bones McCracker wrote:
The best printer is no printer. What do you actually use it for?


printing.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2017 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

John-Boy wrote:
Bones McCracker wrote:
The best printer is no printer. What do you actually use it for?


printing.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Printing why?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2017 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Printing why?


Because f*ck trees, that's why.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2017 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Printing why?
Because that's the only way to get a printout until someone comes up with a replicator.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2017 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Muso wrote:
2. Color laser.

I'm done with non-laser printers. Ink is a ripoff and the quality of the printing sucks in comparison.
Fucking oath! I bought one of these puppies about five years ago, and it's never given me as much as a hiccup. It cost about €250, which sounded expensive to me at the time until I realised how much I'd already burnt on inkjet-related dogshit before that. In my experience, your average inkjet cartridge costs an arm and a leg and can stand about two weeks of disuse over summer before it dries out and you have to spend six hours rubbing it down with vinegar and sacrificing goats to the Great Old Ones for a 10% chance of it lasting long enough to print out your all-important report in some ridiculous colour scheme only a mantis shrimp on acid could possibly have come up with.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 12:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pjp wrote:
Bones McCracker wrote:
Printing why?
Because that's the only way to get a printout until someone comes up with a replicator.

You don't need a printout. Very rarely do you actually need one, and when you do, just print it at work, the library, a store, etc. You're being victimized because you're a dinosaur.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 1:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bones McCracker wrote:
pjp wrote:
Bones McCracker wrote:
Printing why?
Because that's the only way to get a printout until someone comes up with a replicator.

You don't need a printout. Very rarely do you actually need one, and when you do, just print it at work, the library, a store, etc. You're being victimized because you're a dinosaur.

My home is work. Just because I left California doesn't mean I quit my job.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 1:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bones McCracker wrote:
just print it at work, the library, a store, etc.
Posting from your Obamaphone?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 1:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pjp wrote:
Bones McCracker wrote:
just print it at work, the library, a store, etc.
Posting from your Obamaphone?


:lol: :lol: :lol:
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 2:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Muso wrote:
pjp wrote:
Bones McCracker wrote:
just print it at work, the library, a store, etc.
Posting from your Obamaphone?


:lol: :lol: :lol:


Not just any Obamaphone, but a Carlos Slim Obamaphone.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 2:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

flysideways wrote:
Muso wrote:
pjp wrote:
Bones McCracker wrote:
just print it at work, the library, a store, etc.
Posting from your Obamaphone?


:lol: :lol: :lol:


Not just any Obamaphone, but a Carlos Slim Obamaphone.

I will have you know I have a Google Pixel on Google's Project Fi network. So there.
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